TRADES

[Rab]

Rab - how can you say if this trade does not get approved PL will forfeit future base games...is this a threat? It was said in forums that PL had to forfeit last Sunday games because people did not show up or afk...it wasn't like your team did it on purpose

I mean if we can't try to fix our lineup, what's to prevent the same thing happening again? We can't do nothing. We can't be blocked from trying to fix it.

Dreamwin Nipple Nibbler Notice how everyone who’s saying “oh approve the trade approve the trade!” is on PL. I’d advise zid to get some more opinions on more neutral guys NOT involved in the two teams that are involved i.e. the names stated above and see what they think

I've fought for trades that weren't ours. I basically just think zid should be there as a safety net to prevent abuse, not trying to work out whether caps should or should not have agreed to their trades.
Also, notice how everyone who's against the trade is not on PL. Being on neither team doesn't make people impartial.

[Grasps]

This trade shouldn't go through, pretty easy to see.. It's not fair to anyone, let alone these inexperienced capts. May as well delete basing games for Criminal (nearly there already) if this trade goes through. I don't think it's fair for teams to either draft for one league or to trade away their players to be strong in one league mid-season. It ruins the league overall. We moved away from this practice years ago and for good reason.

[Rab]

This trade shouldn't go through, pretty easy to see.. It's not fair to anyone, let alone these inexperienced capts. May as well delete basing games for Criminal (nearly there already) if this trade goes through. I don't think it's fair for teams to either draft for one league or to trade away their players to be strong in one league mid-season. It ruins the league overall. We moved away from this practice years ago and for good reason.

So you'd choose deleting basing for 2 teams instead of 1. Genius.

[Shadowmere]

This trade shouldn't go through, pretty easy to see.. It's not fair to anyone, let alone these inexperienced capts. May as well delete basing games for Criminal (nearly there already) if this trade goes through. I don't think it's fair for teams to either draft for one league or to trade away their players to be strong in one league mid-season. It ruins the league overall. We moved away from this practice years ago and for good reason.

What kind of a genius idea is it to not let captains focus on their strengths or weaknesses? Sounds pretty stupid to me to force them to battle in all 3 leagues as a mediocre or a bad team. No idea who decided this "years ago", but sounds fishy to me.

[Jurassic]

In what world is it actually beneficial to have Henry Saari in your basing lineup? Relax

[Tiny]

No idea who decided this "years ago"

Nobody decided it years ago. It was never a rule and he just pulled that out of his ass. The trade deadline was moved up so teams couldn't dump an entire line after they had already qualified, but there was a never a rule against it line dumping or focusing efforts in certain leagues. The idea was to move the trade deadline up, so if people did dump their line, they would have a tough time qualifying.

[Grasps]

What kind of a genius idea is it to not let captains focus on their strengths or weaknesses? Sounds pretty stupid to me to force them to battle in all 3 leagues as a mediocre or a bad team. No idea who decided this "years ago", but sounds fishy to me.

Serious question. Stacking teams for single league play sounds fun to you? You don't see an issue if people stack their team for 1 league only?

[Rab]

Serious question. Stacking teams for single league play sounds fun to you? You don't see an issue if people stack their team for 1 league only?

Being forced to focus your resources on a division you can't win sound fun to you?

[Shadowmere]

Serious question. Stacking teams for single league play sounds fun to you? You don't see an issue if people stack their team for 1 league only?

Umm, no, not really. It's the captain's prerogative, just like it is who to field in a match, up to the limitations in the rules. If a team thinks they can get enough wins just playing 1 league, good for them, go for it. I'm not sure what you're trying to say or do, but to me it sounds like you don't understand captaining at all. And all this is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

[Rough]

I have season tickets to the Giants who are actually not performing well at all, I decided to sell them 1 week later. Cripple was actually going to pick me #1 in the draft regardless and he eventually did indeed get me. Not sure what your angle is though, I would play for any team...did you want me? Most likely not.

i think you are spitting accusations out when I gave my analysis on the trade, we can disagree on things you know. Do you want everyone to agree what you say or think, if so you are living in fantasy island bud. I still like you though but you need to lower your tune.

[ixt]

So in short has this trade been approved or not is the question.

[Nipple Nibbler]

My 2 cents worth, no offence intended to any players involved:

For clarity I offered a pair of mediocre javs for mark week 2 and suggested to afghan regardless of weather or not he took the trade he should give up on basing. He drafted very few basers and that won't get him any wins unless someone forfeits to him, or he trades for a bunch of basers. I understand where the thoughts are with this trade, Tiny needs basers that will actually show up, henry and mark both very active basers. Afghan wants to strengthen his javelin line at the expense of his hopeless basing line.

I think kado is more is a more useful spider. Henry appears to only care about rec. I often see him in BD's ignoring the safety of his terr, while sitting behind said terr shooting across the flagroom. Mark, as long as he isn't drinking too much hes a solid shark choice. As far as I know both these players only play base.

Kado is a good jav and spider (never seen him wb) apparently he can wb too. I think this trade would FEEL more balanced if tiny offered up a second player even a crappy one.

TL;DR
This is a hard one to voice opinion on, I understand the why and I am not against the trade. it will seriously hurt afghan if kado does not show up though.

[Efhat]

Well if that's the case on him giving up on basing, I'll take Zizzo for Sea Bass.
Might as well approve it now. Don't want Zizzo's basing talent rot on that team.
Come on over Zizzo ?message me in-game for chat

[Dabram]

My 2 cents;

Sucks that a team is throwing the towel in 1 league after 2 weeks. 15-0 or forfeits ain't no fun.
Not sure we could deny trades because of that decision tho

I agree the trade should be 2 for 2 to make it more fair.. Mark is far too good in shark imo.
Add a 2nd round free agent pick or spectacular/tucker/big Sean?

[MHz]

I think the trade looks okay actually. Both teams benefit. The problem Afghan will have is that, in improving Tiny's line, he gifts a qualification rival possible wins in a league in which they may have forfeited. He also gifts Tiny a free basing victory against himself, which heads-up equates to two points. Afghan has only won 3/12 games, however, so I think this trade and specialisation is a risk worth taking. He is lucky there is a captain willing to trade a player of Kado's calibre.