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  • #91
    Now let's bring up religion and we can run the gamut in 8 fun filled pages
    Rabble Rabble Rabble

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    • #92
      Ironic that we were just accused of whitewashing history when there was just an Executive Order signed that actually mandates whitewashing American history going forward, but ok. I'm so sick of this Ted Cruz esque whataboutism bullshit take, because it doesn't apply. "Oh, you can't protest racism because you have an iPhone. You can't criticize Presidential policies because you didn't speak out loudly enough condemning China's abuse in Hong Kong. You can't want Universal Healthcare because your shirt uses materials that were refined in less than ideal conditions !!!" It's so fucking lazy, it's basically saying that you admit that there are glaring issues in the United States, but you're going to avoid addressing or even acknowledging them until the world is a utopia of equality in all places. Ted Cruz is the master at whiny bullshit like this, but interestingly enough can't keep up the tough guy act when the boot he's licking lash out at him.

      I would be willing to bet just about everything on the idea that the United States has both Universal Healthcare and UBI before I die. Like Exalt said, UBI went from a fringe idea hardly anyone had heard of to being a mainstream issue with support rising exponentially in the last year or so, thanks mainly to Andrew Yang and the Yang Gang. Look into how many jobs lost from the pandemic are projected to never return. Elon Musk has said he's only a couple of years away from realistically being able to have his semis be 100% autonomous. I have no idea if that means 2 years or 5 years, but when it happens, the USA will be in dire straits if there isn't a plan in place. Artificial Intelligence is going to make life better in many ways, but its also going to drastically change everything.

      Also it's pretty much insanity that Universal Healthcare is seen as some radical idea here. The United States spends more per capita on healthcare than any developed country by a wide margin, and the overall health and life expectancy across the board here has been dropping in relation to just about every 1st world nation. Absolutely bat shit crazy how radicalized everything has gotten here in the last handful of years.
      JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



      turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

      Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
      the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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      • #93
        Originally posted by kthx View Post
        Now let's bring up religion and we can run the gamut in 8 fun filled pages
        We could go there too if you want. The key to any discussion about a sensitive topic is to not take anything too seriously. The problems start happening when people take their shit so seriously that when their arguments fail and they're finally tripped up (which is inevitable for everyone), they get backed into a corner and have to defend whatever dumb shit they said previously to the death, even when they know it was a dumb take. Doubling down on stupidity helps nobody, but most people take themselves far too seriously to ever stop it.

        Here's my take: Most conservative Christians are not real Christians, and 99% of them and all the wealthy evangelicals they follow have never actually read the bible. Change my mind.

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        • #94
          I'll get back to this tomorrow Exalt, work emergency
          Rabble Rabble Rabble

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          • #95
            loool remember when the_paul used to laugh at me for being socialist?...him and kthx literally stalked my myspace page and edited a picture saying "I'M A SOCIALIST" under it like that was supposed to be some sort of insult...now he's advocating quite arguably socialistic ideas

            anyway, in addition to what he said..yea, we need a certain basic minimum standard of living...a robust "welfare" state (dont let your head explode people i know that word is a no no for you..cry about it)...even if we don't fundamentally change the capitalist system that we operate under, we can still start to implement those basic minimum standards of living...at the very least, the "welfare" state should include housing, healthcare, education, sanitation, communications (internet, cell, tv, landline), and food.

            also, we need to work towards democratization and nationalization of the enterprise (from farm to factory). notice how i didn't just say nationalize (which is what soviet union ended up as and most right wing idiots are scared of..the missing element is democracy at the workplace)...


            Democracy at work: A cure for capitalism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTV_GoNvys

            Trump Town Discovers the Practicality of Socialism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsToWxI-m0

            "we pump water out of the ground and charge the people for it, why can't we do that with f̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶ EVERYTHING.?"

            Last edited by trancE tunes; 10-14-2020, 11:59 PM.
            "TW and EG staff are both insanely lenient on hate speech, to the point that they're jeopardizing the game's survival" -SpaceHiker

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            • #96
              Originally posted by trancE tunes View Post
              loool remember when the_paul used to laugh at me for being socialist?...him and kthx literally stalked my myspace page and edited a picture saying "I'M A SOCIALIST" under it like that was supposed to be some sort of insult...now he's advocating quite arguably socialistic ideas

              anyway, in addition to what he said..yea, we need a certain basic minimum standard of living...a robust "welfare" state (dont let your head explode people i know that word is a no no for you..cry about it)...even if we don't fundamentally change the capitalist system that we operate under, we can still start to implement those basic minimum standards of living...at the very least, the "welfare" state should include housing, healthcare, education, sanitation, communications (internet, cell, tv, landline), and food.

              also, we need to work towards democratization and nationalization of the enterprise (from farm to factory). notice how i didn't just say nationalize (which is what soviet union ended up as and most right wing idiots are scared of..the missing element is democracy at the workplace)...


              Democracy at work: A cure for capitalism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTV_GoNvys

              Trump Town Discovers the Practicality of Socialism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsToWxI-m0

              "we pump water out of the ground and charge the people for it, why can't we do that with f̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶ EVERYTHING.?"

              Myspace? Lol oh man. That's a blast from the past. I wonder if Tom is still alive.

              America will likely never achieve any of these things in our lifetime to be honest. Look how hated Bernie Sanders was by his own party and the media in general. None of his policies were literally any different than what every other first world nation on earth already has and much of the rest of the world as well. The United States is the only industrialized country in the world that does not have Universal Healthcare for all citizens. It's the most expensive nation on earth to get a secondary education from as well. As for the Green New Deal, that's not even radical and much of the world already agreed to do most of that stuff under the Paris accords. Basically, if a guy like Bernie Sanders is demonized for trying to bring the US on par with the rest of the world in extremely basic things like healthcare and education, there's zero chance America will lead the way in things like a 'welfare' state where other things are taken care of for citizens. Why would we get that when we can instead spend trillions bombing some poor people in some middle eastern/west Asian country. 2000 people died in 9/11 attacks and trillions were spent in a heartbeat. 200,000 people died of COVID19 and people cry about wearing masks. Healthcare and basic human rights aren't valued in America.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by trancE tunes View Post
                loool remember when the_paul used to laugh at me for being socialist?...him and kthx literally stalked my myspace page and edited a picture saying "I'M A SOCIALIST" under it like that was supposed to be some sort of insult...now he's advocating quite arguably socialistic ideas

                anyway, in addition to what he said..yea, we need a certain basic minimum standard of living...a robust "welfare" state (dont let your head explode people i know that word is a no no for you..cry about it)...even if we don't fundamentally change the capitalist system that we operate under, we can still start to implement those basic minimum standards of living...at the very least, the "welfare" state should include housing, healthcare, education, sanitation, communications (internet, cell, tv, landline), and food.

                also, we need to work towards democratization and nationalization of the enterprise (from farm to factory). notice how i didn't just say nationalize (which is what soviet union ended up as and most right wing idiots are scared of..the missing element is democracy at the workplace)...


                Democracy at work: A cure for capitalism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTV_GoNvys

                Trump Town Discovers the Practicality of Socialism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsToWxI-m0

                "we pump water out of the ground and charge the people for it, why can't we do that with f̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶ EVERYTHING.?"

                What socialist ideas am I arguing for? Also I never did that, I didn't know you had a myspace. I'm sure it was friends of mine and I'm sure I laughed at it though.
                JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



                turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

                Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
                the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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                • #98
                  I'm not a Trump fan, but I hope he wins this year.

                  If Biden wins - expect all those people who have been fostering discontent: rioting, looting, burning stuff, those who have this hyper-racialised view of the world, and who seek to curtail freedoms in the name of Correct Thinking, to be in positions of power. They'll be mayors, governors, district attorneys, leaders of government departments, etc. If you thought this intellectually stultifying atmosphere of fear, racial tension and self-censorship was at fever pitch, wait to see what a Biden presidency will look like. They'll be twice as loud and twice as effective. This is how the New Left operate - they infest institutions like rodents (see: Rules for Radicals and the Long March Through the Institutions.) That's not to say that Biden is some kind of Communist Inflitrator (quite the opposite, he is 100% establishment centre-right Democrat), but the unholy, intersectional coalition that the Democrats have formed to win elections necessarily entails power sharing with multiple identitarian interest groups, with BLM being at the forefront of that. Trump - as imperfect as he is - is probably one of the last bulwarks against this encroachment of cultural marxism throughout America's public and elite institutions.
                  "Trenchwars' 11th best shark" - Ogron

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