2012 Presidential Election

[gran guerrero]

You should be scared of Romney's foreign policy. He's funded by Israeli Zionists for a reason. They are begging for war with Iran. It's gonna happen right away if he's elected.

Don't think Obama is a pussy either. He brought the troops out of Iraq only to put them back into Afghanistan, (we found and killed Bin Laden in Pakistan, wtf are we still doing in this country? Oh right poppy fields, saffron, and lithium in their mountains!) He then went on to give Libya a big fuck you, and it's only a matter of time he gets involved with Syria that will be linked to Iran, and what would be prolonged/delayed attempt at war with Iran will eventually happen.

Ron Paul = less government regulation, end this foreign policy of hawkishness, and legalize weed (He's a doctor, don't say he doesn't know shit. The DEA is a bunch of bullshit to consider this drug as Schedule I when there's like 16 states that have adopted medical marijuana - Schedule I means ABSOLUTELY NO MEDICAL BENEFITS).

Honestly, I don't see why the rest of America doesn't want this.

[gran guerrero]

Is being black really that important? Is being rich that much different? How about voting for a guy who actually speaks the truth and doesn't have to be fact checked 24/7.

Vote Ron Paul.

[Summa]

Vote Ron Paul.

No thanks. Outside of any disagreements I may personally have with his views; the man is just plain impractical. If you realistically want to move toward a more libertarian form of government, then elect officials who will progressively get there over the course of 15-20 years. Ron Paul speaks as if he will deconstruct all government made since 1940 in his first 90 days in office. It is simply an unrealistic point of view that will be either denied by congress, boycotted by the American people, or overturned by the Supreme Court.

Ron Paul believes in the movie form of progress as explained by this comic:

[gran guerrero]

I need a t0ne quote to point out the disinformation psyops that is Summa's post.

Look any President can promise a lot of things. Does it get done? No. Just like you said, you have to get congress and the senate to make the necessary changes. But when you have a 2 party system that has 2 leaders that want to expand the government (don't believe Mitt Romney's flip flopping lies, he's expanding it just as much as Obama is), then more or less likely the Executive Leader will sign laws that expand the government.

Ron Paul wants to decrease that. Can he do it right away? No. Will he veto unconstitutional bills that call for more government which puts money into fat cats pockets? Yes. It will be a hard fought battle for Paul to accomplish anything in the White House, but I can be damn sure he will try and he will fight. The man hasn't changed his platform for the last 16 years. Can the same be said for Obama and/or Romney (LOL)? He doesn't pander to lobbyists, and he doesn't pay off the media (which hurts him the most because he doesn't get any exposure to the public that are spoon fed lies from their major news networks).

How can you say no to guy that wants to legalize weed, not bring the internet to regulation (like China), not get involved in war, bring our troops home, secure our borders, and bring the economy back to the free market trade that it use to be.

CAN HE DELIVER ON EVERYTHING HE WANTS?

No. Because he's not going to have congress and senate to agree with him on everything, but he can start to make things move in the right direction. Congress and Senate are dependant on their voters to keep them in power. The people learn a little about the inner workings of their government from their commander and chief. As President, Ron Paul would attack the greed and corruption that has plagued our government. He has been all along. There would be a regress of power from the government if Ron Paul was President. The country wouldn't revert to the stone age. Provide answers not soundbytes, comics and graphs like you are Faux News Summa. The news won't defend Ron Paul, but the internet will.

I think it's time we had a politician that wasn't a lawyer or a businessman. ENOUGH WITH THE LOBBYISTS. Where is the engineers, scientists and doctors running for government?

DR. RON PAUL 2012

[Reaver]

No thanks. Outside of any disagreements I may personally have with his views; the man is just plain impractical. If you realistically want to move toward a more libertarian form of government, then elect officials who will progressively get there over the course of 15-20 years. Ron Paul speaks as if he will deconstruct all government made since 1940 in his first 90 days in office. It is simply an unrealistic point of view that will be either denied by congress, boycotted by the American people, or overturned by the Supreme Court.

You do realize that Ron Paul is no different from every recent president and presidential candidate in that he promises the world and delivers much less...right? You do realize that if Ron Paul acts as though he's going to reduce the government to the same size it was in 1940 in his first 90 days that, what he'll really achieve is to reduce the size of the government to what it was in the 90's by the end of his term at best, right? The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether you vote for Obama or you vote for Romney, you will get shit on. Obama has urged the Supreme court to not see the Monsanto case (Monstanto v. Bowman), which, is absolutely ridiculous how important this case is, how important it is that Monsanto gets bitch slapped before they have a monopoly on the FOOD INDUSTRY. How about the fact that Obama has supported the warrantless wiretapping act and the list goes on and on. I'm not exaggerating, nor am I making anything up. The same list of absolute bullshit is coming from Romney. I'm not even advocating that everyone must vote for Ron Paul, what I am advocating is that if you give one shit about this country, you won't vote for Obama or Romney.

[Spock!]

IMO, They all promise to do so many great things. It all sounds great until they get elected and sit on their asses and when they do make changes, they are generally shitty ass changes that nobody wanted in the first place.

Presidents are all just puppets of the Global Elite. They will bumble around until they are given orders what to do.

Oh, and the Patriot Act sounds patriotic, but it is really just a way make Big Brother happen faster. Even then we might even be in Big Brother now.....Are they recording what I am typing right now?

Damn it.

[Spock!]

Oh, and the Illuminati too. Gotta watch out for them, they run the whole show.........They are everywhere..................Damn?

[Zeebu]

i'd be willing to bet no one actually reads what you write because its in a stupid color. i make snap judgments of people. personally i dont find you very intelligent. i havent read anything you say, but i assume you are not a smart person all the same.

[Spock!]

i'd be willing to bet no one actually reads what you write because its in a stupid color. i make snap judgments of people. personally i dont find you very intelligent. i havent read anything you say, but i assume you are not a smart person all the same.

That is the first intelligent thing you have ever said.

[Reaver]

That is the first intelligent thing you have ever said.

I'm still waiting for your first

[DoTheFandango]

It's going to be very close. Obama has been polling like shit for the past week, after weeks of Romney falling. It all depends on Ohio, so if you vote there, your life actually matters.

[DoTheFandango]

And anyone that wants to vote for Ron Paul is just as brainwashed as anyone else. Tools.

[gran guerrero]

Says the socket wrench

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The GOP had a great candidate with Jon Huntsman but he obviously didn't fit the role of puppet and decided to walk away from our GOP debates and say F' running for president. Newt was even a better choice than Mittens. I remember having heated debates with kthx about the elections last time we found ourselves at this crossroads. Obama has not committed himself to 99% of the campaign promises he made to the electorate. Mittens has found a way to be a yes man to whatever group he is addressing at the fundraisers he has, flipping from one position to the next. The problem as I see it, is we have two idiots running for President that neither deserve to be elected to! I would vote for Huntsman or Newt come election day, but that would be the same as voting for Ron Paul. A waste of a vote. A more pressing problem we as a nation and people must deal with, is of our elected idiots to the Congress and Senate! Here is where the real bowl of crap has been siiting and it damn well needs a good flush and or plunger to get rid of some of these lifetime millionaire politicians feeding off the country with their free health insurance and pesnion plans that us regular folk are told we cannot have and should learn to live without.

It would be refreshing to have politicians that lead by example, but this will not happen until the government is so fucked up and out of touch that we see either a civil war here or our the removal of our constituion all together in lieu of using Orwell's 1984 as the new constitution.

I would have voted for McCain over Obama last election if they would have picked anyone other than Palin as his running mate. Same feeling I have once again with Romney and his pick of Ryan.

Newt actually said it best when on Meet The Press, that you can not be a successful president today unless you lead and run the nation from the Center and not the far right or left! I agree 100%

These idiots running seem to pander only to the corporations now known as peoples by our Supreme Court, political party and their personal agendas, rather than taking a middle of the road approach. We are a nation of lemmings ready to run off a cliff for a politician.

By the way, WTF is with Obama and the NDAA he demanded? What happened to his transparency in government? What happened to him not surrounding himself with Wash. insiders? Obama is one big ass lying sack of shit! Not that the other candidate would not be!! But wtf is going on that our country no longer abides by the constitution exceot when it fits what they want? Look up the story of Leah Plante if you wish to see how the great Obama is abiding by protecting our citizens rites to protest and speak out against the government! This should concern all of us any time there are law-enforcement raids that target political literature & First Amendment-protected materials. Odd that citizens are having their constitutional rites revoked by the Obama Admin. and these citizens are being put on trial by secret grand jury's!

I am so so so happy to be an independent.

[Money]

who is to say the same wouldnt happen with newt or ron paul or huntsman? everyone thinks their candidate is going to do big things but in the end when they get elected no one ever does anything no matter what party they are besides go to war with a republican or watch republicans cry for 4 years cuz they dont get what they want so why even have a fucking president