World Politics

[Material Girl]

Originally posted by Kolar
Not everyone deserves to be blessed/happy.

I digress.

[MaGi kOz]

Maybe I should just make a thread called "World Religion."

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
Don't you see the hipocrasy there, though? By hating a culture or the implications involved with said culture mixing with your own (not to mention the repeated mentioning of "God's Chosen," whatever that means), aren't you walking a particularly dangerous line?

Sounds a bit too Nazi Germany for my taste.

First off, the word "HATE" is yours not mine. Secondly, I was stating an observation, not a mission. It's my belief that what I posted is a big contributor to the decline of the U.S. Like Jesus said regarding the tares of the world, "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Hitler, didn't want to let both grow. He was a 'type' in the pattern of the anti-christ.

The point was not to "HATE" or extinguish, foreigners in America, the point was that America is too nice. We let people come to this country and live the American dream not matter where they come from. Hard workers are rewarded in this country. But a hard worker isn't always a good worker. Some work hard to try and change those things we hold near and dear to our hearts. Like for instance, the Constitution.

Democrats to the constitution is very similar to Catholics to the Bible. Republicans want to preserve the Consitution and enforce what's already in the books. Democrats want to rewrite the Constitution and add laws upon laws, which are really loop-holes for them to snake out of their own snares.

Some people say, "I hate people who do this and that."
While others say, "I hate some of the things people do."

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by MaGi kOz
Maybe I should just make a thread called "World Religion."

No, it's just some people have God in every part of their life. So those that cringe at the thought of God, might feel like religion is creeping into the discussion. When the reality is that God is a part of everything and should be considered when analyzing any given topic.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
Democrats to the constitution is very similar to Catholics to the Bible. Republicans want to preserve the Consitution and enforce what's already in the books. Democrats want to rewrite the Constitution and add laws upon laws, which are really loop-holes for them to snake out of their own snares.

Are you fucking kidding me? You don't actually believe this, do you? That's fucking crazy, and you're fucking crazy if you believe it. You're saying that a 200+ year-old document is gold, and you can't change/amend it if need be? You don't think that things change over time? That's bullheaded. Time/situations change, and laws need to be changed to reflect the times.

So what, because slavery was a-ok in the colonial US, it should be a-ok now? That's such bullshit, and you know it. The original authors of the Constitution were smart, no doubt, but there's no way anyone could write a bulletproof document at any point in time that would stand for the centuries following it.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
The point was not to "HATE" or extinguish, foreigners in America, the point was that America is too nice. We let people come to this country and live the American dream not matter where they come from. Hard workers are rewarded in this country. But a hard worker isn't always a good worker. Some work hard to try and change those things we hold near and dear to our hearts. Like for instance, the Constitution.

Also, this is what's called "isolationism." It doesn't work in a global economy, which is where the world is headed towards, if not already partially there. It makes you no better than Islamic fundamentalists by saying "I don't like your kind, so stay the fuck out of my country." Didn't you learn to share your Tinker Toys in kindergarten? Am I the only one who thinks that we're all in this together? National boundaries are man-made, imaginary lines. We're all humans, can't we find a common ground? Christ.

[Kolar]

Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
Are you fucking kidding me? You don't actually believe this, do you? That's fucking crazy, and you're fucking crazy if you believe it. You're saying that a 200+ year-old document is gold, and you can't change/amend it if need be? You don't think that things change over time? That's bullheaded. Time/situations change, and laws need to be changed to reflect the times.

So what, because slavery was a-ok in the colonial US, it should be a-ok now? That's such bullshit, and you know it. The original authors of the Constitution were smart, no doubt, but there's no way anyone could write a bulletproof document at any point in time that would stand for the centuries following it.

You could say that also for the 2000 year old book.

[Mandagorian]

The Constitution was a set of rules for people over 200 years ago, but not all the rules of the Constitution can be applyed today. The rules that we follow and live by must also change with time or we will find ourselves living in the past and making no progress as a society.

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
Also, this is what's called "isolationism." It doesn't work in a global economy, which is where the world is headed towards, if not already partially there. It makes you no better than Islamic fundamentalists by saying "I don't like your kind, so stay the fuck out of my country." Didn't you learn to share your Tinker Toys in kindergarten? Am I the only one who thinks that we're all in this together? National boundaries are man-made, imaginary lines. We're all humans, can't we find a common ground? Christ.

Hey!!! Quit friggin' putting words in my mouth smartass! You're trying to lead this discussion where YOUR perception takes you... and your perception is skewed to say the least. I never said anything about isolationism. If someone continually breaks your toys are you going to continue to allow that person to play with your toys? You might still play with that person, but you're no longer going to trust that person with your toys. I'm not saying get the fuck out of my country! I'm not saying let's keep foreigners out! I'm not saying I hate those people who are not like me! I know exactly where the world is going... I've got the scoop straight from God Himself. You're right, the world is heading towards a world economy and a world everything for that matter. Why? because it's part of God's plan. In order for the anti-christ to temporarily rule the world, the world has to be a global society.

If you're getting good grades in school, it's because of your ability to spin the topic to your side, not because of your comprehension.

[Bioture]

I think HeavenSent is a religious redneck that gets angered at the mention of african americans in nascar.

Anyway back to the politics - I think Bush is a retard. He surrounds himself with all these yes men and warmongers, and then we're off! First its the war with terrorism (yeah, terrorism surrendered). Did he get Osama? no. Ok no problem! lets go get Saddam and start a war with Iraq cuz theyre all terrorists too! Oh No! theyre arent any weapons of mass destruction... at least not until the 2004 election! Did bush get Saddam? No. Ok no problem! Since we managed to kill his sons lets just use thier battered faces to raise morale and keep on trucking! USA WINS WAR AGAINST IRAQ. USA WINS WAR AGAINST TERRORISM! GOOOOO USA!!!!!

edit: God Bless those fuckers who died during the war! God bless america cuz america just fucking won 2 wars! Look at the pics of saddam's dead sons! we trashed those fuckers good! YAY! SCORE ONE FOR GOD

GOD - 1 ALLAH - 0

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by Mandagorian
The Constitution was a set of rules for people over 200 years ago, but not all the rules of the Constitution can be applyed today. The rules that we follow and live by must also change with time or we will find ourselves living in the past and making no progress as a society.

That's the problem with people in this age of technology. Many think the basics of good morality change with the times. Yet, isn't stealing still stealing? ..and lying still lying? ...and murder still murder? It's when you have ASSHOLES like BILL CLINTON trying to change the friggin' definition of the word "IS". Take away our technology and we're still the same creatures with the same wants, needs & emotions we had 1000s of years ago.

God knew that when He gave us the Big Ten Commandments.
:eek:

[Fit of Rage]

To the initial subject of the discussion...

Bush's cronies dance around tell him how to run the country (Donald Rumsfeld).

I'll take the liberal hamburger all the way, thank you. I studied the origin of conservatism by way of Metternich in Austria last year. Man I hated that. Screw conservatism.

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by Bioture
I think HeavenSent is a religious redneck that gets angered at the mention of african americans in nascar.

Hardly, i have plenty of African American friends. In school, it didn't bother me to have an African American girlfriend. In the Army, my circle of friends were mostly Blacks and Puerto Ricans... So just because I'm a God-fearing, God-loving man, doesn't mean that i'm a redneck. Let everyone with the cash and talent do what-ever they want. Just let Justice rule.

We're on a ride we can't control.. like riding a wave. The best thing to do would be to just relax and go with it, then to try and go against it.

[Kolar]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
That's the problem with people in this age of technology. Many think the basics of good morality change with the times. Yet, isn't stealing still stealing? ..and lying still lying? ...and murder still murder? It's when you have ASSHOLES like BILL CLINTON trying to change the friggin' definition of the word "IS". Take away our technology and we're still the same creatures with the same wants, needs & emotions we had 1000s of years ago.

God knew that when He gave us the Big Ten Commandments.
:eek:

Yet we still have technology and social changes. Applying archaic laws that don't effectly govern a society is rediculess.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
Hardly, i have plenty of African American friends.

Do they know that you don't want them in this country?