Ownage got Owned

[Izor]

the funniest part of this is that some people believe he wasnt cheating

EDIT: and the most likely scenario from where I stand is that the newbie knew not to cheat since staff came in, but didnt know how to turn off shields and didnt want to look guilty by taking a +1 lagout. Probably thought that there wasnt a big 'shields' when a mod is looking at his info

[Spikester]

3. Matchbot was hacked to prize shields etc.

Matchbots can't prize

[Barton]

if an ER/mod/smod/sysop did prize him it is ez to catch it with *log.

dont think that any staffer would be so dumb.

[stark]

Nor cam mods, as neth said. You'd have to be a a smod or sysop to use the *prize command, and be sitting there hitting /*prize 13 /*prize 18 to him the whole time to do that. That wouldn't be overlooked when checking the log. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know he's got sheils, whether it be the little graphic in the top right, or the green message that says it in the middle of the screen (and it would have appeared a lot) or even the sound (if he plays with sound on) when you get prized.

[Sufficient]

the funniest part of this is that some people believe he wasnt cheating

EDIT: and the most likely scenario from where I stand is that the newbie knew not to cheat since staff came in, but didnt know how to turn off shields and didnt want to look guilty by taking a +1 lagout. Probably thought that there wasnt a big 'shields' when a mod is looking at his info

Agreed.

[Black Mage]

the funniest part of this is that some people believe he wasnt cheating

EDIT: and the most likely scenario from where I stand is that the newbie knew not to cheat since staff came in, but didnt know how to turn off shields and didnt want to look guilty by taking a +1 lagout. Probably thought that there wasnt a big 'shields' when a mod is looking at his info

then why were no cheats found on him by PL?

[Izor]

hows he supposed to know what progs are on the kid's computer? the only 'theory' you have is that an smod greened him shields. If you give me a reason why an smod would dislike the kid so much do tell, but seeing the track record of 0 such abuse in dds, I think you have nothing to sustain that argument

[Black Mage]

hows he supposed to know what progs are on the kid's computer? the only 'theory' you have is that an smod greened him shields. If you give me a reason why an smod would dislike the kid so much do tell, but seeing the track record of 0 such abuse in dds, I think you have nothing to sustain that argument

PL went through his registry...to check what progs are on the kid's computer. Unlike other cheater incidents, were cheats were found when PL searched, leth came up clean.

[Galleleo]

Firstly, I play with non translucent radar and box..

Secondly, wtf

[Ephemeral]

Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate

In other words, you come out of a store and there is someone running away from your car and the new big dent in it. Many possible theories exist, including one where the person running away hit your car and does not want to accept responsibility for it. Another possible theory is that space aliens crashed into it in a failed attempt to land on earth.

Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed.

[Kolar]

then why were no cheats found on him by PL?

Because the stuff about "checking his account" makes no sense at all. I am convinced he was not using a cheat, greening someone else with prizes is unlikey leaning on impossible because of the way this game runs.


It is more likely someone was prizing him either with Smod powers or with a bot after doing some checking. Finding out who it was it a little harder because bot commands are not logged. Just because one staffer decided to abuse his powers does not mean TW staff as a group are corrupt. That phrase is getting well worn out and meaningless and this actually is a pretty rare occurrence hench the drama and 30 people watching this thread...

[Doc Flabby]

Matchbots can't prize

Why not?

They have smod powers.

Therefore they must have the power to do any smod *command

The whole point of a hack is to get something to do something it isnt meant to be able to do.

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I've looked at the screen shot and there isnt any other bots in the arena visible. Im sure if one of the TWbot was in arena at the time it would have been noticed. And the banner family arnt there.

Also if Bot *commands are not logged it makes it easier to get away with, as if the staffer/player did * commands themselves they would be found out easily......

But of cource it could be a new cheat....nuffin to do with the bots.

[Aquatiq]

About 4 years ago I was just playing levi elim and out of nowhere I was prized with superpower. Hehe I didn't do anything about it besides shoot everything in sight :P

Oh.. and do the Banner bots really have smod powers? o.O

[Kontrolz]

the funniest part of this is that some people believe he wasnt cheating

EDIT: and the most likely scenario from where I stand is that the newbie knew not to cheat since staff came in, but didnt know how to turn off shields and didnt want to look guilty by taking a +1 lagout. Probably thought that there wasnt a big 'shields' when a mod is looking at his info

Ding ding ding! Tell 'em what's he's won!


I wasn't there but I think I know enough to have an informed opinion after reading allll of this. Just use logic, the dumbass was cheating. Saying that he never plays just makes it more likely he would have cheated. If he has to literally be called to play maybe he doesn't care if he gets banned, or wants to get banned.

Edit: Black Mage, staff can't do much to check for a program on someone's computer. Unless the person gives them access to their computer and lets them snoop around which I highly doubt happened. He cheated, get over it.

[Izor]

Because the stuff about "checking his account" makes no sense at all. I am convinced he was not using a cheat, greening someone else with prizes is unlikey leaning on impossible because of the way this game runs.


It is more likely someone was prizing him either with Smod powers or with a bot after doing some checking. Finding out who it was it a little harder because bot commands are not logged. Just because one staffer decided to abuse his powers does not mean TW staff as a group are corrupt. That phrase is getting well worn out and meaningless and this actually is a pretty rare occurrence hench the drama and 30 people watching this thread...

Does that mean you know who on staff was abusing or that it was even a staffer? and even should that be the case theres no excuse for seeing yourself get hit with multiple bullets and not know something's up. He was 13-1 for christ's sake and he ate enough for someone to do a ?cheater call..no one is paranoid enough to do a ?cheater over 1 or 2 eats. How can you possibly manipulate the rules to get this kid out of a ban..I mean thats the most obvious cheat ever.