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    A bit of a dicussion on things


    I've been dean for about 3 years now and I am shocked that i'm still here. Most people probably didn’t think I would have lasted this long and neither do I. I have hired 120 people including our current bang op and most of the staff. I don’t exactly know how well I have done and I think its rather difficult to judge that. I’d like to hear all of your opinions about the matter. My main goal was to be a dean who played the game(since I have always seen most upper staff didn’t play) and hire people who had the desire to help the zone. Sometimes I didn’t hire the most vet people(because most of the time the vets didn’t want staff and the ones who wanted staff weren’t quite right for staff) and that the people who weren’t considered vets seemed to want to help more and put the effort in. It’s true I did hire more basers, but I did try hard to hire duelers. There’s many things I think I could have done better and I do apologize for it but I don’t regret any of the past decisions. After all this I’d like to give someone a chance to takeover, with a fresh thought process and someone who can be devoted to it and not deal with the millions of other things that I had to deal with. This should free me up to do other things which I will discuss in alittle detail.
    Trench Wars Today (in my words)
    Many problems in this zone that I see right now lets start with staff:
    It seems that staff is sorta lost in terms of the structure. ZH shouldn’t be a stepping stone to ER and to Mod because some people just like to help others while some like to host. And if you promote the people who are doing good at hosting than that becomes an issue. Also, there isn’t really anyone in charge per say. Some people say it lands on me but no official announcement about anything so it tends to be the same type of problem on the upper staff level. No one in charge of the Smods. When an Smod abuses , we need to have someone who can be able to enforce them. I don’t think theres a big problem in who gets hired but the new dean and pred can come together to discuss that. Another thing is that staffers and players alike need to know that theres many things they can be doing and just simple answering calls or hosting isn’t ever enough. We need players and staff that take initiative and try to create things. Need people to step up and ask to be a part of things. Not hosting the same stuff every day. Theres so many areas that need people to help out on even if you aren’t staff. I really have never turned down someone trying to do something that I thought would benefit everyone even if they were a ZH or player. I see glimpses of people doing this (crazi lately with some things planned with ect, nethila stepping up as twl op the beginning of the season) to name some. But theres needs to be many more people and on a consistant basis. We need staffers who have an opinion on the matter and not be afraid to say it. I think a different structure could help make it so people can be more creative.
    Zone population:
    The problem in the last couple years is the decline in population. This is probably most likely due to other games gaining popularity. But theres many things we can do to get our population up. We need to concentrate on the marketing campaign. The new website will help some as long as have a huge effort around it. We need to push a grass roots strategy almost a virus type of marketing where it starts with the players and the community since that is what makes this game fun. The actual game itself is half the value. Everyone knows that. We don’t have the best graphics obviously but we have a community that is unmatched in any other game I have played. I think this has been known since the beginning by the motto of “meet people from around the world and kill them” or whatever that was. It shows that we knew in the beginning that the people and competition between the community is what drives the game. So if anyone who is reading this is into marketing and wants to help out we need all the help we can get. We have someone paying for the server but we need the players to pay(in effort) to keep the game going and do whatever you can to promote the zone. So how can you help? Theres plenty of ways to help. Being completely negative and immature isn’t one of them though. For the zone population, you can help out by showing others the game simply or by using any talent that you have(ie. Making some flash advert thing). If you are at colleges there is certainly ways you can introduce the game to others. The myspace aspect could be a way to help . Other gaming sites…forums and forum sigs…the list is really endless. We have a marketing team that we just put together that will be trying to help figure this out. But it all starts and ends with the players helping just like how staff is comprised .
    The zone itself (settings and the sort)
    Everyone know there is problems with settings in various conditions. First, we have the public map. The map and the settings cause us to restrict certain ships and other things in the public arenas. Ideally we would want it to be the same throughout all but then it tends to eliminate LTing. Theres been several ideas brought up (new map, different settings for javs) Therefore I thought it would be a good idea to have a committee for the public settings and try to work out a viable solution. Not everyone is happy with some of the suggestions yet but we are pretty far off from coming up with a solution and I stress to everyone that the changes will be made if it will help fix the situation. Another problem with settings is in the basing arena itself. Cramming seems to have taken over and made all other ships useless. I know greven has headed a group of “veteran basers” about trying a few things out in that regard and see if we can have a bot that hosts each one of their test arenas out during their testing period . The last problem that I have noticed recently is the baseelim situation . I’m not too sure on whats going on with it but it seems like most people are playing javs instead and some people have asked for baseelim to be combined with elim again. The map changes people seem not to like so far and probably won’t remain unless general opinion changes. Maybe some jav people should make a group(chat, whatever to get you together) and discuss changes in this regard. I’m not a jav person so its hard for me to relate but you get the idea.
    The last part of this is dedicated to the automation in the zone. Can’t stress enough how much we need people to help code our bots not only to make new things(which I know some people say ruins it but theres many things that can be done to help the zone and interesting ideas on stuff that I have and many others about bots that can be made) and also to just maintain and keep what we have going. That’s a huge thing that people tend to forget, how much effort it takes to just keep things running in general and with the bots themselves. Theres always issues that have to be fixed and changed and we really need people to help out. I also think that staff, players and everyone else needs to show appreciation for the amount of work the dev people put into this. Noone ever says anything to them unless its to fix this or fix that or complain about something not working right. Roboqueen was down for 3 days and we were pretty flooded with people complaining about that. The simple fact is that roboqueen server and tw server is owned by priitk. So he has say on who has access and who doesn’t . I’d like to think I don’t have access cause how the hell would I fix it? I don’t know how to code or fix bot type of issues. I think the access levels and the other stuff like that is way better now than ever. I remember when twd was down for weeks and access was even more limited. But we can always try and get more . It requires priitk to trust other players who play.
    We also need to combine the devs and form one committee that oversees them all.(yes stealing your idea ikrit) . We need to be able to go to a person or to a committee and they should know what others are doing. Not everyone doin their own thing. We need structure in this regard too. On a side note, the maps need also to be more carefully scrutinized . We have too many maps that are being uploaded that aren’t good (to be honest). So have talked to the new maps person about this(f22). As the new dean takes his position he will also have other ideas that we need to talk about(this includes clearly defining the position of people that are in staff).
    Closing Remarks

  • #2
    This has been a very long post and I apologize if you are bored but you should be concerned. I don’t think the end is near but I do think we need to drastically change the way we do things. I am moving on towards doin other stuff that will help out even more than being dean(yes I know all you can joke about how I do nothing). But there is a few projects that I want to concentrate on because it is so important that we excel on these projects. The first is, TWRP(http://trenchwars.org/TWRP/) I’m not a 100 percent sure this idea will work but I really like the idea so I want run with it. Also, the marketing idea. I would like to just overlook how it’s going. I will also be working with the sscouncil and overlooking smods. This isn’t a resigning from staff letter. I will be just as active and actually have the ability to do what I want to do.
    Thank you very much for reading this if you made it to the end , then you must actually care about the game as much as I do.

    Thanks

    Pure_Luck


    p.s. The final idea that I have and really challenge anyone who can program to do is this: Make a system and bots to replay an actual game that is played(with bots as the players) . I think this is possible and would be awesome to actually see done. I know there is so much dev and other stuff that is important but I really like this. I know that’s sorta getting off topic but creative ideas are what separates this zone from the others. (note this is a total side note of the rest of the post).

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    • #3
      u got balls kid
      Girl if it's alright,
      100%.

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      • #4
        You get all these wankers complaining about the game and the old times, but then again, if all these people are complaining, then clearly something is wrong, maybe another/new dean will help sort something out
        1:abbot> i think i played well
        1:brookus> abbot last time i checked YOU lost
        1:brookus> so im going to say that YOU sucked as well

        7:Sleuth> HOW DO YOU FUCKS SAY CRACKER
        7:Vue> WE SAY CRACKER
        7:Vue> U DIPSHIT

        7:Rampage Jackson> wtf are you guys drunk or 15?
        7:Vue> lol jackson when sleuth is online everyone becomes 15

        oar> i got rejected from Stray
        oar> and both of their caps are on my personal chat
        oar> but its ok

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        • #5
          1:Pure_Luck> people are too lazy to read it
          1:Pure_Luck> and just ask if i am still staff

          Yeah, he's still staff, but he's not gonna be Dean. I'm gonna label him as "Head SMOD" until he says otherwise. So, at this point, discuss what you think about this matter. If you wanna do a pool on who the new dean will be, put it in a separate thread, thx.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sleuth
            You get all these wankers complaining about the game and the old times, but then again, if all these people are complaining, then clearly something is wrong, maybe another/new dean will help sort something out
            as it's been said everytime, if people are just complaining and providing nothing useful, what use are they
            violence> dont talk 2 me until u got 900+fbook friends and can take 1 dribble from the 3 point line n dunk


            [Aug 23 03:03] Oops: 1:siaxis> you try thta ill play possom then reverse roundhouse kick your life
            [Aug 23 03:20] money: LOL NOT QUITE VIO BUT 5:siaxis> you try thta ill play possom then reverse roundhouse kick your life

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            • #7
              re

              PL your a good dean, i would like too see TW OPS become a little more leniant. A problem i see in TW is people staff do not allow people to have a good time, and are very well NAZI LIKE. In tw i cant say stuff in blue without being worried that i will get bann'd. Also, PL ur still an ugly hebrew.
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              TWLD SEASON 12 CHAMPION
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              • #8
                Personally pure, I think you did the best job you could of done given the circumstances of the zone when you took over. However, I do think it is a necesity to have more than 1 dean of staff, and once Mantra took over everything looked good, until it didn't work out. So i'm glad you're staying as an active SMod but it would be nice to put someone in the same position as you (not below you in any way.)

                Secondly, I think that a new SMod position should be created as an arbitor of publics (it was arilou, but he sort of stopped playing.) This player should be a trusted pub player who will take into account the opinions of the masses and create a more cohesive public.

                As an idea to get a larger playerbase you might try using digg.com, just create some bullshit news story and get our playerbase to digg the shit out of it.
                Vehicle> ?help Will the division's be decided as well today?
                Message has been sent to online moderators
                2:BLeeN> veh yes
                (Overstrand)>no
                2:Vehicle> (Overstrand)>no
                2:BLeeN> ok then no
                :Overstrand:2:Bleen> veh yes
                (Overstrand)>oh...then yes

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                • #9
                  3 years? time flies.
                  NOSTALGIA IN THE WORST FASHION

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                  because the internet | hazardous

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                  • #10
                    3yrs too long jk :P
                    Girl if it's alright,
                    100%.

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                    • #11
                      you should stop banning people for racism. In hz racism is allowed and you will be surprised that people feel less need to use it and plus i dont think people will care if someone says something racist. If you get your feelings hurt online than you are a sick loser.

                      P.S give me mod

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                      • #12
                        Pure_luck ftw.

                        The truth is, we have now just witnessed what a good dean is, aka Pure_Luck. All you whiners out there, you'll see that p_l was the best at this once the new dean kicks in. No one is perfect, nor will the new dean be perfect either. We got used to the way P_L ran things, now we will have to re-adapt to the way our up-coming dean will.

                        Awesome job Pure_luck

                        PEACE

                        killergt
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                        • #13
                          yo deluge?
                          stfu?
                          zidane> big play
                          Omega Red> dwop sick
                          mr mime> its called an orca smash u uncultured fk
                          WillBy> ^^

                          1:Chief Utsav> LOL
                          1:Rule> we dont do that here.

                          cripple> can u get pregnant if u cum in gf's ass

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                          • #14
                            I do agree with the facts you stated.

                            Some things indeed needs fixing, and I assume this is the time to start.

                            Good luck,
                            AcidBomber <ER> ^-^

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                            • #15
                              I think the issue with staff hierarchy is that if one of the deans or someone assigned to take the time and talk to the <ZH>'s, <ER>'s etc. to actually find out if they're interested in actually doing that or just working toward a higher position then the system works just fine. I think if you wanted to really go the distance you could distiguish veteran <ZH>'s from newer <ZH>'s by simply making them a <ZH+> or <ER+>, its nothing huge but it's something simple that shows that, that particular player has achieved a higher status in that position. Works like a promotion but if they really enjoy staying in that position then thats fine too, its not just a stepping stone. Even if you dont like the <ZH+> idea, its still a good idea that the next dean be more personal with all the staff members, to find out their goals.

                              As for the zone population, what ever happened to getting those google adwords? Practically everyone uses google nowadays anyways. And the fact that, like you said, graphic-wise this game cant compete with other games being released today, its really the community. I think that because the game relies so much on the community that really the best way to gaining population to the game and keeping the population is by everyone that plays the game now tells their friends about the game.

                              As for javs being heavily populated and baseelim being deserted, its not as big of an issue as people make it out to be, javs ARE the new baseelim. People can get in and play when they want, automated bar warp, etc. Its convenient.

                              Nice three year run, good call to continue helping the zone.
                              1:Best> lol why is everyone mad that roiwerk got a big dick stickin out his underwear, it's really attractive :P
                              3:Best> lol someone is going to sig that
                              3:Best> see it coming
                              3:Best> sad

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