TW staff.

[KJW]

So many people whine about how staff does this or that and most of the people who do the most whining are X-staff. Many of those same X-staff also seemed to be the people staff got the most complaints about when they were in staff. So take that for what it's worth.

Hiring staff members is one of the hardest jobs there is to do. Sure there will be a few bad apples along the way, but those bad apples don't stay long. So stop giving the people who hire and fire staff so much hassles. When you have a complaint about a staff member instead of just saying "staff" why don't you use the persons name your complaining about? If you don't want it to be public, email complaints@trenchwars.org so all the right people get it. They really do investigate and take the necessary action needed.

You want to vote on things, how about we vote to axe KJW from staff? That would be cool

[Kolar]

Nah we can't get rid of you Kj, most people wouldn't want your job lol. Voting people would allow the wrong type of people to be even considered for a staff position. I think it is working fine the way it is. Maybe some improvements would work:

like observing how a potential staff member acts in public and reacts to people. Test them for their knowledge at least if that not already done then expand on it to their actions/reactions (especially in the absence of a staff member).

[kthx]

you guys are taking this the wrong way.

Yes I know it's the whole ex-staff hates staff thing again right? Wrong.. Im just tired of seeing the game arena hosted 10 times a day, and noone hosting anything that hasnt been hosted in months, I tried my best to host a variety of games. ZH's dont even bother taking help calls these days. And to come out and point out a staff member that is sucking in my opinion isnt that easy, if I don't see a staff member on then how do I know he/she is still staff? I only see the 5-10 staff members who do host. do take help calls.. and I know I don't really get to see mods and smods and such because they do behind the scenes stuff. Besides.. thats not my job, its staffs job to see who isnt doing their part of the work, who doesn't even care and get rid of them before the way people look at staff is changed. I still respect a good many staffers, I talk to them, I always obey rules in their games.. im not some rule breaking asshole ex-staff as you so bluntly put it. If you put up a list of ZH's and ER's on this forum, I can almost guarantee that 60-70% of the staffers would'nt even be well known.. "whos that guy" "I have never seen him host anything". And, I know that picking staffers isnt the easiest job out there, but take some time and watch them host a few games, see how players interact with the staff, see how the staff treats the player. Thats how you can tell if a staff is going to be good later on or not. And about all the umm abuse reports on me. How many of those were legitimate claims not just morons mad because I would'nt let them back into turretwarz or hockey after I had to spec them for cheating? The one that got me suspended was from someone who should be perma-banned for repeated racist offenses and complete lack of respect for any staff or players on the zone.. Anyways I think I got my message across.

The zombie turretwarz2, and hockey tournament hoster.

[Weaver]

Believe it or not, I read these forums on a daily basis.

So many of you feel the need to flame staff constantly. If you think anything is going to get done because of your flames, you are wrong.

The threads and posts that I pay attention to are the ones that are constructive, unfortunately they are few and far between. If you want staff or myself to take notice of your ideas I suggest that you post something that is well thought out and not derogatory.


And for those of you who are content to just flame staff, by all means do so. I warn you however that I probably won't pay much attention to it =)

[Mootland Farmer]

In my humble opinion staff is doing a good job. Wark, you have no idea what goes on in staff chat. 99% of all calls are taken. If there is no <ZH> to take a helpcall , then an <ER> may take the call, and similiar situations staff will cover for each other. This shows staff are willing to do more than what they are asked too.

As for 'who are these no namer staffers', what a load of rubbish. If someone can do a job well, then who cares who there alias is.
Maybe it may be an idea for staff to put out a list of all the staffers, except the mods of course, so people know who is staff. And dont forget there are different staffers in different time zones so you not actually see them at all.

Side note: I wouldn't mind trying out KJWs job. :] Though that may not happen until a long time, so i'll stick to hosting. :]

[Jonas]

Someone please explain to me why the list of mods is kept secret?

It seems to me like mods are staffers who has stopped doing stuff, but has done much a lot of work earlier, too much work to just axe them.

[kthx]

here we go again.

Weaver, if you had taken the time to read my post you would know that im not just flaming staff. that some of my claims actually have basis. Mootland, what I meant by no-name staff was'nt that "hey I have never seen that name before that must bea newbie staff lets give him a hard time" I mean names that havent hosted or answered a help call in so long that noone knows who the hell they are anymore. and 99% of help calls arent answered. Just last night I did a help call or two, No replies, so I went in seek of an answer.. ?go base - there were three ZH's in the arena, when I asked.. why didnt my ?help get answered, I was responded with - What ?Help and umm "I would have just done !tell nohost anyways". So.. please take the time to actually read my posts before automatically jumping to conclusions. We are just worried about the shape of staff these days, not posting such enlightening flames such as "Staff are all homosexuals" or "Staff is gay, fuck you staff".

the turretwarz deathmatch hoster.

[kthx]

ohhh yeah.

and I forgot to mention, ER's do have to take help calls alot.. but... they should'nt have to be doing that. Thats why they got promoted to ER and another ZH was hired.

[PhaTz]

zh are too new to answer help calls, they just turn to Moderators

[Galleleo]

Dont axe KJW, because thats what he wants :P.

And I really think most staffers are doing a good job, for example TWL season 6. All I think is that it is weird to hire Ice Storm, because I could change my name then come and spam the forums, then suck up too yomama in the game if that is what is needed to get staff. But I do think staff is doing a great job. Like, weaver, epi, cpt. guano, acid, KJW, Dock>, Moot, lynx. And lots more, just cant name em all.

[nemiseph]

Just an idea but I would like to see a list of all the staff on the TW site, complete with any name changes that they may have had.

[M_M God]

Originally posted by nemiseph
Just an idea but I would like to see a list of all the staff on the TW site, complete with any name changes that they may have had.

That would be a damn long list then

[NaiLed]

Originally posted by Jonas
Someone please explain to me why the list of mods is kept secret?

It seems to me like mods are staffers who has stopped doing stuff, but has done much a lot of work earlier, too much work to just axe them.

Probably because then everyone (although most people do anyway) would know who they are so they wouldn't be able to catch cheaters so easily because people would know who every mod is. I think that's why mods don't have tags.

[Jason]

Weaver, shut the fuck up. You're lying through your teeth when you say you'll actually pay attention to anything with even a shred of merit to it. The fact of the matter is, and always has been, there is a severe lack of communication between staffers and players. And the fault doesn't lie with the players. Upper staff is an elitist group of washed up vets (for the most part, but GO GUANO, WE LOVE YOU!) who are too far removed from the average Joe and the average Joe's concerns about the game. Go hire a few more newbies with absolutely zero potential so you can score yourself a little more job security.

[Jason]

Nailed, the good mods, that is those who connect well with the players and take an active role in the community, are well-known by the players and still manage to do a good job. Da Farmer! is a great example of this.