TWL Season 24 Rules & League Changes

[viop11]

u will need 2 retrief a law degree in ordir 2 kniw if u r elligibil 4 this week, thx yoasty

[yoast]

will accuracy allow harder to play for wolf one last game since they may only have 4 today? // im on no other twl roster till next week.

[yoast]

quick q can you clarify the team change thing - just one week of cooldown now? thx - the read messages are very confusing lol - sry thx dwop

[Exalt]

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Squads can add and remove players freely (outside of weekend roster freezes) for the first 3 weeks of the season. Someone can't show up? Ok, add someone else to the roster, and then add that player back the next week. If there becomes a huge free agency pool, or some other major roster / forfeiting issue we can adapt. Relax.

https://forums.trenchwars.com/twl/13...54#post1352854

Respond to this Dwop. I'm not talking about my squad specifically. I'm talking about the 3-league squads possibly needing some relief.

In the linked thread, Viop proposed adding 2-4 slots to the 3-league squads, but they can only recruit people who haven't been rostered or played on a TWL squad. This is a good idea imo, but I took it even further to stick with the spirit of the rules and put the limit on allowing those slots to only play base, seeing as that league requires the most specific skillsets in certain ships (terr/shark) and has an entire team full of people currently not playing (Spastic).

The way I see it, some of those guys like Snoopie tried to create Creality and couldn't get it done in time, so they joined Spastic and are now not in TWL at all. People most likely don't want to recruit them to play 3 leagues, but what if those 3 league squads had some extra slots that they could use for basing-only? Suddenly, guys from Creality or Spastic can play TWL if they so choose and don't have to waste their time playing in leagues they don't care about. It makes sure there's no balance issues for the 1-league squads like Divine/Wolf/Rocket while giving some leeway to the 3-league teams in the league that requires the most players and different skillsets.

Maybe you guys should legit consider this. I sure don't have anything to gain by it, but I can see why it would matter to everyone else. I'd rather not see forfeits in any league.

[viop11]

I belief it would be a great idea that for 3 league teams, after week 3 and b4 the hard lock, u expand rosters to 16-17 ppl. atleast 15. do u know how fkd it is to expect a 3 league squidrin to play with set in stone 13 pirsin ristir for the remaindir of the seasin aftir week 3? everything exilt said is very impirtint 2 considir. its not reasonable to expect efery1 to show to every game, and u r just not going allow 3 league teams to vs any rostir moofs aftir week 3? god forbid 2-3 ppl can't make it.

expand the rosters to 15-17 ppl aftir week 3 for 3 league squidrins, its the right thing/only thing to do. if u dont you r an itilf hitilir lefil humin beink

ty 4 runnink twl and the missif amount of wirk u haf done, but if u don't obey my cimmindmint i dun thank u nemore

[Dwopple]

This 100% is the truth of the matter. Why is Myth the only one to bring this up? I don't even play 3 leagues and can see why this is a huge issue.

The other issue, as I see it, is that not everyone has the time to play all day on Sundays, which is what 3 leagues requires. Do you guys not have lives at all? It's precarious enough as it is to find people who can show up the majority of the time on Sunday, since many people have work or other obligations that make it impossible to be there every single week, which such strict roster limits already require. Besides that, you guys had to make a poll to decide whether to even have Easter week off, not realizing that with so few roster spots, you'll almost certainly have multiple forfeits due to not having 5 or 8 players during that period, because it's a fucking holiday guys. People do shit. They have families now. They are not 14 year old kids with no obligations.

Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at all showed up during NFL season, and I know from experience the vast majority of the playerbase is American due to the server being so terrible and the lag limits so harsh coinciding with it that nobody can play if they're overseas.

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Squads can add and remove players freely (outside of weekend roster freezes) for the first 3 weeks of the season. Someone can't show up? Ok, add someone else to the roster, and then add that player back the next week. If there becomes a huge free agency pool, or some other major roster / forfeiting issue we can adapt. Relax.

[Exalt]

Yeah, not sure how this isn't a bigger topic. Strict roster limits were a cool idea, but forcing us to also combine TWLB rosters with LD/LJ rosters is a big step back. Some parity is achieved by the first change, but completely reversed by combining it with the second. When TWL was first brought back in 2019 after three years of it not being remotely feasible due to the population, one of the only reasons it worked was because Turban came up with the idea of having a separate TWLB roster.

13 roster spots for a 3 league squad is just completely unreasonable. TWLD, TWLJ & TWLB requires adding 18 players. At a minimum, you're asking players to never miss a single Sunday while also forcing at least five players to double league. How many players are 10* or 9* talent in more than one league? Recruiting a single-ship specialist severely hurts any other league your squad wants to participate in. This is then compounded by the fact that you can have the two best three-leaguers on one squad (i.e. Ease/Turban), and you're giving them a decided advantage in this format. Those two can stack in ways that no other team can, simply because they don't feel nearly the same impact of the roster limit. The incentive with this new limit is for the best multi-leaguers to join the same squad and dominate TWL while nobody else gets a chance to assemble a competitive roster to compete against them.

This is not what TWL is. The nuclear arms race that was hoped to be prevented by this strict roster limit still happened, but only two squads got to participate in it instead of the usual 4-5. I hope this decision gets some reconsideration.

This 100% is the truth of the matter. Why is Myth the only one to bring this up? I don't even play 3 leagues and can see why this is a huge issue.

The other issue, as I see it, is that not everyone has the time to play all day on Sundays, which is what 3 leagues requires. Do you guys not have lives at all? It's precarious enough as it is to find people who can show up the majority of the time on Sunday, since many people have work or other obligations that make it impossible to be there every single week, which such strict roster limits already require. Besides that, you guys had to make a poll to decide whether to even have Easter week off, not realizing that with so few roster spots, you'll almost certainly have multiple forfeits due to not having 5 or 8 players during that period, because it's a fucking holiday guys. People do shit. They have families now. They are not 14 year old kids with no obligations.

Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at all showed up during NFL season, and I know from experience the vast majority of the playerbase is American due to the server being so terrible and the lag limits so harsh coinciding with it that nobody can play if they're overseas.

[Riverside]

The idea behind roster limits was to create some competition... it's disappointing to me that players from squads like Lion who have somehow managed to put together 10 wbs are the ones also asking for the separate rosters.

[Geio]

u should not b abil to b on diffirint squidrins for duelink and basink, stupidist thing i efir c, and if sum1 wants to play on 2 teams @ once, u haf 0 mirils

havink said this, 13 pirsin ristir for a 3 league team is fkin ridicilis, n i demand rostir limit for 3 league team be raised to 15 so ofir hilf the squidrin isnt firced to play 3 leagues every weekend. not efery1 cud dedic8 4-5 hrs str8 2 vsink cintinim. fkin pipsquik dwippil

viop11 this game is very stressful remember this

[viop11]

u should not b abil to b on diffirint squidrins for duelink and basink, stupidist thing i efir c, and if sum1 wants to play on 2 teams @ once, u haf 0 mirils

havink said this, 13 pirsin ristir for a 3 league team is fkin ridicilis, n i demand rostir limit for 3 league team be raised to 15 so ofir hilf the squidrin isnt firced to play 3 leagues every weekend. not efery1 cud dedic8 4-5 hrs str8 2 vsink cintinim. fkin pipsquik dwippil

[Geio]

Myth brings a really solid point. I for one have not really played a basing match in a few years. 1 I’m really not even good enough to to take a roster space and that’s fine. However I would honestly like the idea to base more. Separating ld/lj is a decent idea given the current population. Especially with tight roster spots.

[Majorcrisis2]

I feel like last season twlb was such a success because of the seperation. Someone like mythril could make a twlb line better, but with his current squad its pointless to make a run for twlb. Like someone mentioned a squad with the biggest 3 league stars have such an advantage.

[Heaven]

keep strict roster limits but split the rosters... do what's right and what 97% of the remaining population wants.

[Ardour]

TWL is a professional TWD. Why can't we be on separate squads per division? For the record that sounds awful. I join a squad and I want to represent that squad everywhere.

TWD is supposed to be squad versus squad. Your gang... who you ride and die with. You represent that team in this game.

The fundamental game is you are on a squad and you have to defeat the other squad. Just because we separate the battle rules doesn't mean you should be able to be on different teams otherwise you cheapen the point of squads.

The introduction of separating base and duel rosters is the single worst decision made in the lifetime of TWL.

[ogron]

"The single worst decision made in the last 10 years of running TWL is ending the separation of base and duel rosters."

Someone wrote that in a chat earlier, and like eight people chimed in and agreed. It's really baffling to undo such a positive change that Turban instituted successfully years ago.