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    For Basing Nerds only! Extremely dorky things to follow.



    Top 100 Basers of All-Time

    Every season. Every final. Every champion.

    All 36 seasons are now included and available in a searchable document here.

    Best viewed on a 1920x1080 monitor or larger.



    Notes

    S5 is the first TWLB season. There was no basing or javs S1-S4.

    S12-S22 is 99% correct, listing every winner and runner-up, using readily available box scores from the TWL website. (requires mod access to change the seasons, or the game ID codes to see every season)

    S6 is now 99% correct thanks to Ease tracking down the box scores in forums.

    S7 is also 99% correct thanks to Brookus uploading video from Round 2 and 3 of the Finals. Rab found Round 1 here and I've updated it.

    S8 is now 99% correct thanks to Rab tracking down the Finals box scores here and here via Wayback Machine.

    S9 is now 95% correct thanks to Ease getting me some links using the old TWLM website. (requires plugging in player's TWD ID in the address bar, selecting Season 9, and checking the -Finals- vs. Syndicate scores for Game 73).


    S10 still doesn't have Finals box scores, but gleaned some useful roster info from TWLM website, as it does have the entire regular season.

    S5 is a black hole. S10 and S11 are 80% correct. Stayon and Sarger helped me years ago giving me lineups from memory. The rest is reconstructed from TWL History, forum posts, and the Wayback Machine. Props to Rab for hunting down the 2005 TWDT-B runner-ups for me.

    If you have screenshots/boxscores/video of the TWLB semis or finals from those seasons, let me know and I'll update the sheet.

    Thanks to JAMAL, Spezza, and Ease for going through the Skill ratings for me and providing feedback. I took pretty much all their recommendations.

    I tried to rate older players (Koan/Spybreak/Brookus/etc.) and rivals (Stayon/Commodo/Thix/etc.) as generously as possible, but ultimately this list is my subjective opinion. For older players, I talked to elite basers from the era and leaned on All-Star voting threads from S6/S7/S8/etc., which helpfully listed how many votes each player got in every ship.

    Rating

    The rating is 70% Skill, 30% Championships.

    Within that 30%, the weighting is 75% TWL/25% TWDT (so a TWLB title is worth 3x a TWDT-B title.) How the 30% is counted on the sheet:



    Only finals starters who played the majority of winning rounds in Finals get the dark gold color, which helps weed out useless people like Voth.

    This also provides a nice, hefty, objective weight to the rankings to move players up or down, since the Skill rating is subjective opinion.

    Final Thoughts

    Even if you disagree with the ratings, this provides a nice database to look up basers, where they played, who won what season, etc. The list
    has to be ordered in some fashion, anyway.

    There's also a Hot tab on the sheet, which shows you which players were on top of the basing world at every point in history from 2002 to 2019.

    Every column averages the previous 5 seasons, so you can see basers rise and fall as time progresses from left to right, with Disoblige players dominating
    leagues, then Dice taking the mantle, Penetrate having the briefest glimpse of the top, and then finally Thunder wresting the summit from Dicers.

    To Old Basers

    I'll re-post my response to NL>Terminator here for anyone coming back to the game a decade later:

    For future old basers coming here, just a note: It is a Top 100 list, not a Every Baser to Ever Play list. I've added as many names as possible, but if you haven't played in the last 10 years, never started a final in TWLB or TWDT-B, and never were near the top of a TWLB All-Star voting list on forums 10-20 years ago, you name may have slipped through the net, even if you were a good baser.

    I'm sorry if you felt disrespected being left off, that was absolutely not my intention.
    Why Am I Not on The Sheet Then?

    Every TWLB player who played x amount of games (on the TWL stats page) from s12-s22 should be on the list. If you played like 2 TWLB games in that span you didn't make the cutoff.

    Someone accidentally destroyed all the stats from s5-s11, so active players between 2002-2007 who should have been auto-added based on games played in TWLB, weren't.

    That means I have to add players from that era manually, usually through TWLB Finals or Semi-Finals boxscores, All-Star voting, and Best Spider/Terr/Shark forum threads from the era.

    Everyone who has ever played in a finals is on the sheet. Ditto anyone who placed high in All-Star voting in forums or were ever on Top Basers lists. While this is good enough for a Top 100 list, some very good basers slightly outside that range may unfortunately be left off because of the deleted stats.

    If you're one of those people, let me know, and I will add you.


    Last edited by Claushouse; 11-23-2019, 04:43 PM.
    TWLB 22 (2019) CHAMPION
    TWLB 21 (2016) FINALIST
    TWLB 20 (2015) CHAMPION
    TWLB 19 (2014) FINALIST
    TWLB 18 (2013) CHAMPION
    TWDT-B 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 CHAMP/FINALS
    BASING CUP CHAMPION (2018) / WORLD CUP CHAMPION (2015)
    #1 RANKED TERR FORBES MAGAZINE, BEST KDA IN TWL HISTORY
    TWLD 20 CHAMPION / TWLD 22 FINALIST / TWDT-J 2014 CHAMPION / TWDT-J 2019 CHAMPION
    Most Consecutive Basing Finals in History (7 straight, never done before or since)

  • #2
    Wondered what you wanted that data for, this is cool.

    Requests:
    - Could you combine stats from my old name into my new name?
    - Is there an easy way to filter to only show active players?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rab View Post
      Wondered what you wanted that data for, this is cool.

      Requests:
      - Could you combine stats from my old name into my new name?
      - Is there an easy way to filter to only show active players?
      Gimme your old name and I can add it, sure.

      No filter, but I can do it manually for you, only takes a minute.
      TWLB 22 (2019) CHAMPION
      TWLB 21 (2016) FINALIST
      TWLB 20 (2015) CHAMPION
      TWLB 19 (2014) FINALIST
      TWLB 18 (2013) CHAMPION
      TWDT-B 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 CHAMP/FINALS
      BASING CUP CHAMPION (2018) / WORLD CUP CHAMPION (2015)
      #1 RANKED TERR FORBES MAGAZINE, BEST KDA IN TWL HISTORY
      TWLD 20 CHAMPION / TWLD 22 FINALIST / TWDT-J 2014 CHAMPION / TWDT-J 2019 CHAMPION
      Most Consecutive Basing Finals in History (7 straight, never done before or since)

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      • #4
        Here you go:


        Top 100 Active Basers
        TWLB 22 (2019) CHAMPION
        TWLB 21 (2016) FINALIST
        TWLB 20 (2015) CHAMPION
        TWLB 19 (2014) FINALIST
        TWLB 18 (2013) CHAMPION
        TWDT-B 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 CHAMP/FINALS
        BASING CUP CHAMPION (2018) / WORLD CUP CHAMPION (2015)
        #1 RANKED TERR FORBES MAGAZINE, BEST KDA IN TWL HISTORY
        TWLD 20 CHAMPION / TWLD 22 FINALIST / TWDT-J 2014 CHAMPION / TWDT-J 2019 CHAMPION
        Most Consecutive Basing Finals in History (7 straight, never done before or since)

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        • #5
          wow Impressive work Ogron !!
          Trasher> lol hellrazor

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          • #6
            How rude! Shine my belts! Best undeserved TWL title winner in TW history... the sig proves it okay??
            Duel Pasta> great
            Duel Pasta> I spilled juice on my face


            Tower> NATIONAL WEED YOUR GARDEN DAY


            TWLB Champion Season 12
            TWLJ Champion Season 11
            TWLB All-Star Season 10
            Best undeserved TWL title winner in Trench Wars history

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Voth View Post
              How rude! Shine my belts! Best undeserved TWL title winner in TW history... the sig proves it okay??

              Was a joke : )

              Your sig is accurate!
              TWLB 22 (2019) CHAMPION
              TWLB 21 (2016) FINALIST
              TWLB 20 (2015) CHAMPION
              TWLB 19 (2014) FINALIST
              TWLB 18 (2013) CHAMPION
              TWDT-B 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 CHAMP/FINALS
              BASING CUP CHAMPION (2018) / WORLD CUP CHAMPION (2015)
              #1 RANKED TERR FORBES MAGAZINE, BEST KDA IN TWL HISTORY
              TWLD 20 CHAMPION / TWLD 22 FINALIST / TWDT-J 2014 CHAMPION / TWDT-J 2019 CHAMPION
              Most Consecutive Basing Finals in History (7 straight, never done before or since)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Claushouse View Post


                Was a joke : )

                Your sig is accurate!
                i never knew you cared. out of all the undeserved TWL title winners in history (and there are MANY), you agree that i am, in fact, the best.

                hey in all seriousness, why aren't you signed up for mafia? i could see you and exalt getting into a "which post has a higher word count" dick measuring contest and it would probably be legendary. https://forums.trenchwars.com/forum/...om-of-westeros
                Duel Pasta> great
                Duel Pasta> I spilled juice on my face


                Tower> NATIONAL WEED YOUR GARDEN DAY


                TWLB Champion Season 12
                TWLJ Champion Season 11
                TWLB All-Star Season 10
                Best undeserved TWL title winner in Trench Wars history

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                • #9
                  Hard pass on Mafia, Voth.

                  Rab and Ease tracked down S6, S7, S8 and S9 finals for me, and I've updated the sheet. Got some info from S10, but TWLM doesn't have that final.

                  Meaning only S5 (TWLB Cup), S10, and S11 are missing. If you have screenshots, video, or boxscores of those TWLB seasons (particularly the finals), let me know.

                  Thanks!
                  TWLB 22 (2019) CHAMPION
                  TWLB 21 (2016) FINALIST
                  TWLB 20 (2015) CHAMPION
                  TWLB 19 (2014) FINALIST
                  TWLB 18 (2013) CHAMPION
                  TWDT-B 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 CHAMP/FINALS
                  BASING CUP CHAMPION (2018) / WORLD CUP CHAMPION (2015)
                  #1 RANKED TERR FORBES MAGAZINE, BEST KDA IN TWL HISTORY
                  TWLD 20 CHAMPION / TWLD 22 FINALIST / TWDT-J 2014 CHAMPION / TWDT-J 2019 CHAMPION
                  Most Consecutive Basing Finals in History (7 straight, never done before or since)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Voth View Post

                    i never knew you cared. out of all the undeserved TWL title winners in history (and there are MANY), you agree that i am, in fact, the best.

                    hey in all seriousness, why aren't you signed up for mafia? i could see you and exalt getting into a "which post has a higher word count" dick measuring contest and it would probably be legendary. https://forums.trenchwars.com/forum/...om-of-westeros
                    how to delete someone else's post
                    three perfect chords get me closer to heaven
                    been mappin the abyss since 2007

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                    • #11
                      I took part in TWLB season 6 for -Final- when they won that season. I also helped Terrorist in TWDT season 2019 when they tripled crowned. What is this conspiracy theory to write me out of the history books?! sheesh.
                      ranked #2 in ogrons signature of: TWL's most irrelevant nobodies pubtrash bozos with 0 titles.

                      TWLD Season 19 #70th Best Warbird
                      TWLB Season 19 #56th Best Spider

                      TW Greatest no-shipper 2002 - Present

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                      • #12
                        Going down on memory lane around 12 years ago, and to correct the excell, I played and won season 10 as well. It was my first lb win, first season I played under by choise, as it was a season I was the most inactive (1h per week) on and realisticly the start of my spider talent decline, and the rise of experience, mental strenght, and championships.

                        Ironicly I had to morph like a butterfly in order to reach the finish line.

                        I believe that day I mvp'd the first round (One of my few mvps on final), Pandora makes 1-1, and then on the crucial game..

                        Cape played for Chief, high possibility of Dwop subbing in mid-game for Cig, A2M, Mega, Crip, Stay, Mikes. Jra played until he lagged, Mega Newbie stepped on to make one of the most ferocious subs ever going 0-10, attacking cram, with game being around of 6-9, until Necro replaces MN.

                        The game gets caotic with cram breaks and flagroom fights, Cape pulling legend moves and 2 teks, Necro 1 Tek to hero and myself another 2 through under pushes, managing to disrupt Pandora's excellent game control after pounding us on round 2. We nailed the coffin, as per usual with a clutch cram.

                        In the end, Pandora's organization was not enough for Dice's bigger talent and mental strenght. The lag didnt help and we were not as tidy as they were.

                        We went on on relying on out talent and experience when it mattered on future TWLBs. Dice's only organized season was actually their first, from my spectactor view, where they went from being a possible huge upset, to a it's an obvious win, on a few weeks. Resembled on a different scale, to Spastic's season 6 win, comming from being a pub squad months earlier, to face and beat behemoths like Diso, Pallies, WR or AS.

                        ​​​​​Shayde did not attend but would of started for Mikes.

                        Necro was a hybrid between bein 4th shark, starter and 1st sub.

                        My brother did not attend. Hero was not an option.

                        Vati and Sarger standed out for me.

                        Was fun to write a little bit, there's other errors on different teams but my memory would make me more nostalgic. Papi out!

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                        • #13
                          #193 represent what whatr


                          1996 Minnesota State Pooping Champion

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                          • #14
                            This was fun to look back on, thanks for this
                            Peyton Manning

                            Originally posted by Vatican Assassin
                            all stats should be removed except for the stat of how many times mattey can go fuck himself which I would expect should be rather high
                            JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it

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                            • #15
                              #365...rising up those rankings quickly!

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