TW Mafia: Sovngarde Awaits

[the_paul]

Anyway, back on topic:

I guess you could qualify Exalt and I as "defending" each other. I wouldn't, but I can see the logic behind others saying it. I think Exalt and I are linked to each other in this game, and that's not really ideal for either of us. Anyone who's played the last few months knows he and I have a little bit of a friendly rivalry going on, so I would much rather be going after him than trying to keep him from being lynched. At this point, and given how this game has gone, if either me or Exalt gets lynched, the other one is almost definitively going to die the following day, which I think mathematically ends the game.

I'm inclined to believe Exalt. I respect the hell out of his game, but if he can (assuming he is scum here): Lead the charge on his godfather day fucking 1, claim race cop on day 2 or whatever it was, and also come out as the same race as the lynched godfather, all before night 2 even started... Well then put this mother fucker in the hall of fame. I admit it's definitely a possibility, but man he would have had to have been playing 4d chess.

Moving on to the theory that Exalt and I are both scum. We would have to be the 2 most braindead mafia members since Xog and Jessup to try to survive by both claiming the exact same role. Exalt is better than that, I like to think I'm better than that, and quite honestly anybody with a pulse is probably better than that.

Exalt has been very upfront about his role and race. I have laid all my cards on the table. Ffe has laid 90% of his on the table, and is smart to not go 100%. Ixt has been upfront and proved to me he's a tracker beyond any doubt. Rodney claimed really early on, I can't guarantee his role but he's been honest about his race.

Activity almost always favors town. We have enough good players left to where there is almost 100% sure scum among the active members who have claimed. But the higher percentage, in my opinion, is among the fairly inactive players, most of which have recently claimed vanilla townie. I don't believe there's this many VTs in the game, for a variety of reasons that have been covered before. I can't tell you which person is the right one to lynch, especially given my performance last phase. All I can say is that lynching Exalt could very well end the game. If Exalt is honest about his role and still gets lynched today, I'll be lynched tomorrow 100% sure. If I get lynched today, Exalt dies tomorrow, and we lose the game. If Exalt has been scum since day 1, well then fuck me and I'll nominate him for the best played game I've seen on here in the last decade or whatever its been.

[the_paul]

Okay it makes sense about the Vampires now that I read the intro post.

Vote exalt final vote

1. Nord = scum is a precedent until further notice
2. Multiple of the same exact roles have historically included at least one scum role
3. As per Paul, look to the people defending others. Exalt been defending Paul pretty hardcore by the end of this phase. Possible they are either both scum or one is vampire that recruited other


There will be no further vote changes on my end. Just got engaged so may or may not be posting less frequently for the next few days

Hey congratulations buddy! I'm pretty sure I met you and grand and downfall when I was like 14, so this is a little bit fucking wild to think about.

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Okay it makes sense about the Vampires now that I read the intro post.

Vote exalt final vote

1. Nord = scum is a precedent until further notice
2. Multiple of the same exact roles have historically included at least one scum role
3. As per Paul, look to the people defending others. Exalt been defending Paul pretty hardcore by the end of this phase. Possible they are either both scum or one is vampire that recruited other


There will be no further vote changes on my end. Just got engaged so may or may not be posting less frequently for the next few days

Oh shit congrats!

[ffe]

Okay it makes sense about the Vampires now that I read the intro post.

Vote exalt final vote

1. Nord = scum is a precedent until further notice
2. Multiple of the same exact roles have historically included at least one scum role
3. As per Paul, look to the people defending others. Exalt been defending Paul pretty hardcore by the end of this phase. Possible they are either both scum or one is vampire that recruited other


There will be no further vote changes on my end. Just got engaged so may or may not be posting less frequently for the next few days

[the_paul]

Stupid mobile BS

What was Rodney's race?

High Elf

[ffe]

Stupid mobile BS

What was Rodney's race?

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It doesn't really matter anyway. He's probably really tracker because there's no one claiming other roles, only way he's cult recruiter is if he managed to recruited the useful roles on n1/n2 and that's why everyone's claiming vanilla

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Ixt is definitely a tracker. He's proven that

Cult recruiter can just recruit people and say they tracked whoever the person tells them they were targeting and no one is gonna dispute it

[the_paul]

Tracker is a really good claim for cult leader, but we don't have enough other power roles that tracker could be a lie I think

Ixt is definitely a tracker. He's proven that

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Tracker is a really good claim for cult leader, but we don't have enough other power roles that tracker could be a lie I think

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I thought about this too, especially given the last game Willby hosted. I stand by my belief that Exalt (assuming he's telling the truth) and I are in this game as distractions because Willby is a dickhead. I think races are completely worthless for deducing anything, but if they will be of any use I agree it will be something obvious. I wondered about werewolves since there's a group in Skyrim that are secretly werewolves. Something like the Brotherhood or the companions or something like that, I can't remember. That's why I thought I was dropping a bomb with the ffe orc news. I had no idea he had dropped that nugget so early on, I completely missed it.

We're in a shit situation here. If we lynch Exalt and he was telling the truth, I don't see any way that I don't get lynched the following day. If I get lynched, Exalt will be lynched the following day. If mafia is smart, they will kill me tonight and roleblock Exalt again. I'll die and flip race cop, Exalt won't have a result, so he'll be lynched and we'll lose. If we don't lynch scum today this game is pretty much over

I really don't think we have enough other power roles for you to just be a distraction, as exalt said there's a billion vt claims, clearly some are not town but the lack of claimed "normal roles" makes me think your role cops must be important .... who would be cult leader tho or recruited early? Afk halp? For an easy body to fill wincon?? I missed what ffe claimed, would it have been a good cultclaim???? Exalt who claimed then has no results ? Maybe exalt recruited after claiming investigative and had to claim "I uhhhhh got roleblocked"?

[the_paul]

Yeah i think that info may help mafia more than town at this point

Fair enough, my question was if it's active the odds would seem low that you guess the correct night that you're going to be targeted. But in the absence of any useful power roles besides ixt coming forward, I agree that you should probably not elaborate any more about it

[the_paul]

Alright everyone I have had a scary thought. This came to me while pondering: What if SOMEHOW TP and exalt were actually both race cops? Why the fuck would we have two race cops?

What other races would exist in a Skyrim game? Vampire cult. A vampire cult would make multiple race cops make sense. Does NOT reveal actual cult, but gives opportunity for us to realize cult when some fucker turns up "vampire" race results. Maybe small mafia (2?) and a cult. Tracker, two race cops that can find cult, throw in a joat or something and that's almost balanced...

I thought about this too, especially given the last game Willby hosted. I stand by my belief that Exalt (assuming he's telling the truth) and I are in this game as distractions because Willby is a dickhead. I think races are completely worthless for deducing anything, but if they will be of any use I agree it will be something obvious. I wondered about werewolves since there's a group in Skyrim that are secretly werewolves. Something like the Brotherhood or the companions or something like that, I can't remember. That's why I thought I was dropping a bomb with the ffe orc news. I had no idea he had dropped that nugget so early on, I completely missed it.

We're in a shit situation here. If we lynch Exalt and he was telling the truth, I don't see any way that I don't get lynched the following day. If I get lynched, Exalt will be lynched the following day. If mafia is smart, they will kill me tonight and roleblock Exalt again. I'll die and flip race cop, Exalt won't have a result, so he'll be lynched and we'll lose. If we don't lynch scum today this game is pretty much over

[ffe]

Beast got killed what, day 2? I can't remember, but he was a hidden Miller. There has to be a cop in the game somewhere since that's the case, a normal cop. I'm not saying whoever you are needs to out themselves immediately, but we're getting pretty damn close.
ffe is your action passive or do you need to tell Willby when you want to use it? I guess don't answer if you're trying to retain some ambiguity

Yeah i think that info may help mafia more than town at this point

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Alright everyone I have had a scary thought. This came to me while pondering: What if SOMEHOW TP and exalt were actually both race cops? Why the fuck would we have two race cops?

What other races would exist in a Skyrim game? Vampire cult. A vampire cult would make multiple race cops make sense. Does NOT reveal actual cult, but gives opportunity for us to realize cult when some fucker turns up "vampire" race results. Maybe small mafia (2?) and a cult. Tracker, two race cops that can find cult, throw in a joat or something and that's almost balanced...