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  • ConcreteSchlyrd
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    Originally posted by NoLimitSoldier View Post
    and thats just the phisical health factors, wait til later in life with spiritual and mental health problems.
    Even if I were to take opinions stated on that page as fact, what's so hard about understanding that it's a personal choice? Why do you feel you have to negate someone else's decision?

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  • Galleleo
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    If you walk outside you run a risk of getting hit by a car.
    If you sit inside, you run a risk of your house collapsing
    If you drive a car, you run a risk of it exploding
    etc.
    etc.
    etc.

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  • HateTheFake
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    and thats just the phisical health factors, wait til later in life with spiritual and mental health problems.

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  • HateTheFake
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    kolar-


    BREAST CANCER:
    The risk of breast cancer almost doubles after one abortion, and rises even further with two or more abortions.(3)

    CERVICAL, OVARIAN, AND LIVER CANCER:
    Women with one abortion face a 2.3 relative risk of cervical cancer, compared to non-aborted women, and women with two or more abortions face a 4.92 relative risk. Similar elevated risks of ovarian and liver cancer have also been linked to single and multiple abortions. These increased cancer rates for post-aborted women are apparently linked to the unnatural disruption of the hormonal changes which accompany pregnancy and untreated cervical damage.(4)

    UTERINE PERFORATION:
    Between 2 and 3% of all abortion patients may suffer perforation of their uterus, yet most of these injuries will remain undiagnosed and untreated unless laparoscopic visualization is performed.(5) Such an examination may be useful when beginning an abortion malpractice suit. The risk of uterine perforation is increased for women who have previously given birth and for those who receive general anesthesia at the time of the abortion.(6) Uterine damage may result in complications in later pregnancies and may eventually evolve into problems which require a hysterectomy, which itself may result in a number of additional complications and injuries including osteoporosis.

    CERVICAL LACERATIONS:
    Significant cervical lacerations requiring sutures occur in at least one percent of first trimester abortions. Lesser lacerations, or micro fractures, which would normally not be treated may also result in long term reproductive damage. Latent post-abortion cervical damage may result in subsequent cervical incompetence, premature delivery, and complications of labor. The risk of cervical damage is greater for teenagers, for second trimester abortions, and when practitioners fail to use laminaria for dilation of the cervix.(7)

    PLACENTA PREVIA:
    Abortion increases the risk of placenta previa in later pregnancies (a life threatening condition for both the mother and her wanted pregnancy) by seven to fifteen fold. Abnormal development of the placenta due to uterine damage increases the risk of fetal malformation, perinatal death, and excessive bleeding during labor.(8)

    COMPLICATIONS OF LABOR: Women who had one, two, or more previous induced abortions are, respectively, 1.89, 2.66, or 2.03 times more likely to have a subsequent pre-term delivery, compared to women who carry to term. Prior induced abortion not only increased the risk of premature delivery, it also increased the risk of delayed delivery. Women who had one, two, or more induced abortions are, respectively, 1.89, 2.61, and 2.23 times more likely to have a post-term delivery (over 42 weeks).(17) Pre-term delivery increases the risk of neo-natal death and handicaps.

    HANDICAPPED NEWBORNS IN LATER PREGNANCIES:
    Abortion is associated with cervical and uterine damage which may increase the risk of premature delivery, complications of labor and abnormal development of the placenta in later pregnancies. These reproductive complications are the leading causes of handicaps among newborns.(9)

    ECTOPIC PREGNANCY:
    Abortion is significantly related to an increased risk of subsequent ectopic pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies, in turn, are life threatening and may result in reduced fertility.(10)
    PELVIC INFLAMMATORY DISEASE (PID):
    PID is a potentially life threatening disease which can lead to an increased risk of ectopic pregnancy and reduced fertility. Of patients who have a chlamydia infection at the time of the abortion, 23% will develop PID within 4 weeks. Studies have found that 20 to 27% of patients seeking abortion have a chlamydia infection. Approximately 5% of patients who are not infected by chlamydia develop PID within 4 weeks after a first trimester abortion. It is therefore reasonable to expect that abortion providers should screen for and treat such infections prior to an abortion.(11)


    ENDOMETRITIS:
    Endometritis is a post-abortion risk for all women, but especially for teenagers, who are 2.5 times more likely than women 20-29 to acquire endometritis following abortion.(12)

    IMMEDIATE COMPLICATIONS:
    Approximately 10% of women undergoing elective abortion will suffer immediate complications, of which approximately one-fifth (2%) are considered life threatening. The nine most common major complications which can occur at the time of an abortion are: infection, excessive bleeding, embolism, ripping or perforation of the uterus, anesthesia complications, convulsions, hemorrhage, cervical injury, and endotoxic shock. The most common "minor" complications include: infection, bleeding, fever, second degree burns, chronic abdominal pain, vomiting, gastro-intestinal disturbances, and Rh sensitization.(13)
    INCREASED RISKS FOR WOMEN SEEKING MULTIPLE ABORTIONS:
    In general, most of the studies cited above reflect risk factors for women who undergo a single abortion. These same studies show that women who have multiple abortions face a much greater risk of experiencing these complications. This point is especially noteworthy since approximately 45% of all abortions are for repeat aborters.

    http://www.afterabortion.info/physica.html

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  • Saturn V
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    ure killin teh next einstein dont do aborshun!!!11!!1

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  • 404 Not Found
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    If the peoples of this world that speak out as Pro-Lifers would have the same feelings towards the world in general, specifically the environment, maybe the world would be a better place.

    Let's protect life, as long as it's only human life and unborn. Once they are 18 we can ship them to war to die for an Idiot politician who would care less about global warming and they can bomb innocent women and children in foreign lands, kill species of all sorts vanishing forever on a daily basis for oil exploration and the create a lack of fresh water, clean air and a supply of food and medicine for the worlds peoples. We can't have that though.

    The world is on a express route for destruction & this seems to hold less importance to many over an abortion issue. When we have no means of supporting life on this planet, then what?

    BTW NLS... Tim McGraw was born and raised by his biolgical mother. Perhaps you know or heard of Tug McGraw? NYM and Philles Releif Pitcher? His actual father. He was not adopted! he was rasied by his biolgical mother and stepfather. Tug didn't even know about Tim it seems until his mom finally came clean and told him about his real father Tug McGraw. He was not adopted in a sense of having no maternal mother and father. Not that it matters.

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  • DankNuggets
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    ROfl at the attempted obama dis, you've made him look like the most sensible candidate ez. As for morals, they're completely dependent upon the person (def. of morals) and if he sticks to his beliefs, than he has morals (whether or not they are "good" compared to yours).

    I'd quit the whole Pro-life stance and pick up a Pro-homo sapiens stance. If you had a 2 month old tapeworm growing inside you, I'm sure you'd want to kill it. Not comparing a baby to a tapeworm, just one underdeveloped form of life for another.

    I love how you have Edgar Allen Poe in there, didn't he become a huge alcoholic and die lying in a gutter in Baltimore?

    What if your kid is the anti-christ? as an evangelical, you should try to nip that one in the bud

    If someone is pregnant and is killed, its up to a jury to decide if its a double murder, although i'd bet it almost always is.

    If a mother is unhealthy (smokes crack) and has a miscarrage, it can be called murder, and i can see how this seems hypocritical.

    I for one am glad that I'm a man, and although i might face a tough decision with a girlfriend or whomever, it'll still be up to them to make it, not me.

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  • Zerzera
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    I agree with NoLimit, I think we should sterilize everyone with an IQ under 110.

    Shit, it keeps shifting up!


    I am against abortion, when I was 15 my best friend had an abortion, I think she took it all pretty lightly too. It might be hard to raise a kid when you are 15, but I think it's out of your hands the moment you screw up.
    But I see I can't hold everyone against my own standards, and I think you can't play the religion card when legislating abortion. It's up to God to judge, at least the baby gets a free pass to heaven.

    (If you are stupid enough to believe in souls)

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    if youre against abortion ... dont have one

    ez as that

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  • royCE
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    im not an expert on abortions but...if what you say is true, that the 5th week develops a heart, is it ok to do an abortion before that?

    your topic on "plenty of parents would love to adopt"
    aaah...last time i checked, people are begging for the current kids to be adopted...they even give benefits for parents who adopt...

    and you want more of em? trust me, there are plenty

    and if your pro life, whole christian thing...If lord give, lord take it away...i think thats the american saying...

    in this case, women, being god who created life, should have the right to take it away...yes it sounds harsh, but truth is, baby isnt alive till fully developed...so killing the egg is same as me jerkin off and cumming....i just killed milions of lil sperms who are potential babies...

    to think....the sperm IS the baby....egg is just the right home...
    so no more jerkin off for pro-lifers...

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  • Epinephrine
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    Originally posted by NoLimitSoldier View Post
    Do you consider something with a beating heart a living creature? A babies heart forms and starts beating in the fifth week of pregnancy, therefor, that would make abortion murder. The baby that is growing inside of you is depending on you, so when you make the choice to end that life, you are making the choice to murder another person.
    It's alive, but it's not a person. Oh no, I didn't just go there did I?

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  • Kolar
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    Originally posted by NoLimitSoldier View Post
    When a girl has an abortion it also adds to her health risk. Like increasing the likely hood of breast cancer (due to the milk left in the breast)
    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/facts.../en/index.html

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  • HateTheFake
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    Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
    What about girls who have been raped? If you're impregnated by a rapist, is that a good idea to carry it to term? What if the rapist is a family member? Is that healthy? What if carrying the child to term means the possibility of killing the mother during childbirth? Are you gonna stick to your guns here too?
    So basically if someones raped the best awnser is to kill an innocent life form. Thats a horrible idea. Its like washing bleach out of your eyes with more bleach.

    Do you consider something with a beating heart a living creature? A babies heart forms and starts beating in the fifth week of pregnancy, therefor, that would make abortion murder. The baby that is growing inside of you is depending on you, so when you make the choice to end that life, you are making the choice to murder another person.

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  • Epinephrine
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    Originally posted by genocidal View Post
    A shitty abortion discussion.
    And to think, until I saw the very last line in the first post, I honestly thought it was a thread in support of Obama.

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  • PH
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    Originally posted by NoLimitSoldier View Post
    These people have contributed alot to society

    Jean Jacques Rousseau - philosopher
    french philosophy?

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