Whose name have you always wondered about? pt 2

[Troll King]

Compare those examples to genocidal's and you'll see a marked difference. His aren't even an attempt at discussion. There may be a negative critical tone, but I don't feel the same outright malice that's in genocidal's.

Take two of those examples you listed: they pointed out how the importance of firearms to the American culture is something that other countries can't understand. They aren't saying that just to bash America, but expressing the same idea: we just don't get it. It is baffling to other cultures.

A lot of the "Yankee bashing" being cited comes in the form "I think your point of view is dumb" in threads that are actually talking about that particular point of view. Compare that to saying "wow there are more FAGGOTS on this forum than I had thought. Of course most of them are European where it's cool to metrosexual/gay" in a thread about badminton and tell me they are exactly the same.

[Liquid Blue]

The reason it seems like a few posters are playing the "Always picking on us" angle is because that's what was actually happening a few years ago when it was popular to hate on Bush. That mentality stuck with a few posters here and ever since, have had no problem randomly bringing up some American hate into a topic. Not getting any reprimand from non-American posters only increased their attitude and e-swagger, because they see it as "since no one is complaining, they must agree with me".

People can express their views on American laws without fear of verbal attacks, the thing that sets certain posters off is how they bring up the laws.

Even tho I think America has the dumbest view on firearms in the history of mankind, I don't think your point is valid.

These other nations have crazy people too, so why aren't there tens of thousands of shootings in Japan? Or Canada? Or even in Britain? Something needs to be done in this country in regards to gun violence, and this event is simply further evidence.

It's your culture. Live with it.

America's ideological obsession with firearms is totally baffling to me. I will never understand it. The things that I hear some Americans say regarding many things but foremost among them about firearms (with a totally straight face!) shock me. Totally irrational.

Rofl, like there will ever be a president elected in the US that makes sense like that.

'Okay folks, let's shoot up the bad guys! Democracy and freedom will prevail. In the name of democracy and freedom. We are against evil, and terrorists! We will fight and overcome the terrorists! And I believe in God, and he's with us!'

Oh, that sounds like something I understand!

Where were the Europeans chiding them for such comments? Those are the beginning of posts, even in a topic intent for discussion they start out with a negative tone. How can you expect good to come from a discussion that gets off on that footing?

It's also how they react to situations- America has had it's fair share of incidents over the years, and every single time I can almost guarentee (I'll look it up if you need me to) - there has been a European coming in just to gloat about how bad America is.

Case in point- The image Jensai decided to post in the VT shooting topic. Did he get any backlash from a European over it? That was a "straight for the zinger" post, as it's ok if other Euro's think it's funny.


American posters know that our country has it's share of fuck-ups but by a large margin, I'm sure you'll agree with me that our country gets singled out for it's idiots more than any other. I'm proud to live here and I have no problem if someone in Finland or Holland doesn't like my country, but I won't go out of my way to chide an American poster baiting condescending idiots when Europeans turn a blind eye to the unnecessary amount of Anti-American slander being dropped over and over in topics.

[Troll King]

You may have a point if Americans members of this forum weren't always playing up the "everyone's picking on us" angle. Even when it's a topic that's honestly discussing government policy, it's America being portrayed as the victim being picked on by "foreigners". Someone that's not American can't even express their view on topics about American laws without being painted as an oppressor trying to tell your country what to do. But with other countries, there isn't even an attempt at discussion, it's just straight for the quick zinger, as if it's okay when people "think it's funny". Even worse, genocidal's throwing it out there in topics that don't have anything to do with America or any particular country. The three threads I linked are examples of that.

It does go both ways. But it's the American perspective that plays itself as the innocent victim while ignoring the fact they're just as guilty.

[Liquid Blue]

So wait, American posters are supposed to chide Genocidal for his comments about America, even when Zerzera or Ratty or some other European go out of their way to down talk the same country- and get no repercussion on their end?

I'm all well and good for leaving "my country is better than yourz" mentalities at the bedside, but how can you complain of Geno getting a "free pass" and going by unharmed when the European posters are getting the same treatment? In the past when there has been an Anti-American vibe sprouted in a topic by some Euro on his high-horse, American posters usually follow through saying " fuck off" with other European posters going "lol". I haven't seen the type of response that you're talking about on their end, so why should you expect it from other American posters?

If Zer or any other poster that doesn't like America or think it's a country beneath them really want to show superiority, it would be to not be so willing to bite to comments like the ones he threw out in the topics you posted. It's easy to tell he's playing the ignorant fat hamburger American that snotty posters have been rambling about for ages in those topics, and yet and still you have people responding to him in kind.

As long as Euros keep biting to his remarks, he's going to keep throwing them out there. And why do Anti-American remarks get met with such offense? Because it's a dead horse that's been beaten on these forums for at least 3 years.

"lol Americans are violent and lazy and eat hamburgers all day long"

"lol Americans are war-mongers, nothing like (insert random, small country here)

I'll start chiding Gen for his remarks when I see some Euro's doing the same. It goes both ways.

[Troll King]

Point out a time when he's been applauded for being a "boorish American" and I'll agree with you

Just make sure it's not a situation where some Euro/Canadian has decided to go with the "lawl sirry Americans" mentality

I didn't say he's getting applauded, I'm saying his comments go untouched by his countrymen while equally asinine comments directed against Americans get treated as if someone mooned the Washington Monument before pissing in the Reflecting Pool. With all the complaints about Euros and Canadians being anti-American, why doesn't he at least get criticism from other Americans for playing the stereotype of the boorish Yank? It goes both ways.

He's been doing this for a while now, but these are some recent examples not including this thread:

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?p=566006#post566006

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?p=565527#post565527

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?p=563304#post563304

In each, he's the one starting it, not responding to someone else insulting America. In the second one, he even admits to doing this just to antagonize.

I mean, when someone like Kolar goes on one of his swings, though he does it in a very heavy-handed manner, at the very least he's trying to discuss the issues instead of just trolling.

[paradise!]

hhaha funny thread, what about vitja??

[Liquid Blue]

Except genocidal keeps getting a free pass.

Point out a time when he's been applauded for being a "boorish American" and I'll agree with you

Just make sure it's not a situation where some Euro/Canadian has decided to go with the "lawl sirry Americans" mentality

[Cryp Wings]

Cryptic Wings = ?

Cryptic Writings as an album by Megadeth, which is pretty darn amazing

So I took the liberty of taking out the R and T in Writings

[Troll King]

Except genocidal keeps getting a free pass.

[Liquid Blue]

one biased opinion requires another?

I guess it's hard to not stoop to a level you disagree with

[Troll King]

And genocidal doesn't have one for playing the boorish American?

[Liquid Blue]

I think it's funny how people are picking on Zerzera's anti-American statement without realizing it was a satirical response to genocidal's equally discriminatory statement.

well he does have a habit of playing the "condescending European"

[Nickname]

4n choose his name because he's an illegal immigrant. True story.

[Foreign]

or like "mm-mm good" but with all the repeating letters removed

[SEAL]

M_M....ughmmmmm... m&m's... the candy, since "&" isnt allowed in your nickname?