Keep Subspace Alive

[Zeebu]

mav, tell me post 47 is on topic.

if not remove it and any other time steve's unwelcome thoughts have been interjected



on topic, advertise and fix pubs so they are fun

[Maverick]

I believe the only way to keep subspace/continuum alive is to keep developing. New developments and inventions are exciting and attract people, just look at Distension. It was new, exciting and fun. It got played alot when it was new and it even got staff all heated up because it was taking players away from other hosted events.

Same goes for hosted events, hosting the same deathmatch event over and over gets boring. Zone staff should innovate themselves and try to host original, new, events. However, primarily they should just lots of original events, the events are what makes Trench Wars in my opinion.

On another front, a harder one though, I believe Subspace can only survive if we develop a new client that is playable on a webpage (flash / Java Applet?), on an iPhone, on a Android phone and on Java Mobile Edition for all other phones. The game as we know it can be compared to the games that are played on such smartphones nowadays - why not join them.


P.S. I've removed alot of off-topic replies. Is it so hard to keep a normal on-topic discussion about a subject? If some people keep up posting off-topic replies, I'll persue a different course of action against those people instead of removing the replies only.

[PUNK rock]

has ph ever made a post that isn't gay this, fag that, etc

Some SERIOUS insecurity with sexuality going on there me thinks

the racism rule needs to be amended to "and other hate speech towards identifiable groups"

Why would you want to propose that, Steve?

[PH]

i don't see how that would do any good for you, transsexuals still won't be recognized as an identifiable group

[bandcampgirl]

has ph ever made a post that isn't gay this, fag that, etc

Some SERIOUS insecurity with sexuality going on there me thinks

the racism rule needs to be amended to "and other hate speech towards identifiable groups"

[bandcampgirl]

Post removed for violation of Forum Rules

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[Imperian]

i don't agree with primary's list, but i agree with his sentiment. Too many idiots on staff, and no training arena after .. 10+ years.

[Primary]

people quit because stupid mofos get on staff and then recruit more stupid mofos, last "event" i went to the fucking ER didn't even know the proper commands and ended up just fucking it up so everyone left, how about training these idiots? how about less random bans over "pub chat harrassment" lol?

it's staffs/stupid trolls, fault the population is declining idiots like Adam don't make people wanna stay

I know you're all like but sadly tis the truth, too many stupid people play

Stupid Name Biter List (updated):

-Primory (stupid name biter, maybe I should report this user for harrassment oh wait im not a posing e-girl like "southerngal" so guess no one would respond)
-TheBleuBaron (stupid name biter)
-bandcampgirls (with the "s" stupid name biter)
-en you tee zee's dozens of posers
-Tabarnak!!!'s dozens of posers

You'd think that could be considered harrassment, but I cheater'd that too was told it's not against the rules, seems like you have to be named southerngal and cyber with basement dwelling nerds on staff to get "harrassment" handled.

Stupid List (updated):

-w00table (never shuts the fuck up, ignore.txt)
-t0ma (ginger kid)
-skomes (trolling since 2006, also never shuts the fuck up ignore.txt)
-southerngal (stupid illiterate hussy who adaM thinks is a real girl so therefore has his back)
-Dr Phil's Charisma (stupid all around, can't stand people trying to use big words they find on dictionary.com then spelling them wrong when using them)
-En You Tee Zee (sick with crohn's disease in RL so hard to hate but still stupid and won't stfu)
-Skyn (racist)
-Democrat (racist)
-pee pee sock (stupid and racist, COMBO DEAL)

list is growing larger and may I add none of these people were "banned for pub chat harrassment" but spam/talk shit to new players and old daily, hmmmm INTERESTING

suck a dick adam with ur stupid post asking shit u alrdy know

[Reaver]

Well first off you have to acknowledge that part of the reason why people quit this game is because of the competition, even if there weren't problems in TW it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to draw new players in. Like many have said there are a lot of other options out there, but continuum does have some merits that I think could still draw players in.

First, some people play continuum to socialize, some people play continuum to compete, some people just log on now and then when they have the time. All of these are ok reasons to play continuum, but what I see right now is that TW is slowly moving towards the players that log on now and then, and away from the competitive aspect that TW once seemed more geared towards. Even now a TWL op made an effort to make this upcoming TWL season a bit more competitive and prestigious but people are already pushing for it to become more of a joke.

But all of that aside, competitive players were once casual players, so we need more casual players. How do we do this? Well there's two really important things that need to happen. The first, which is something that I've been saying for over a year, and I mean literally over a year (go search my posts). We need to get an effective tutorial arena up in Trench Wars. Go as elaborate or basic as you want, just make it effective and quick. I'm certain there are people that enter TW and don't know the keys and just give up before even knowing how to play. I'm pretty sure if I never played this game and I came in today I'd leave, but when I started playing I knew someone that showed me the ropes. I think you'll find many players still playing today knew someone that showed them the ropes, of course not everyone though. Second, we need some advertising. No matter what changes you make to trench wars, it could very well go to waste without some advertising.

The people that talk about hiring better staff members are right, but I think that's more to appease some of the current players. This definitely needs attention but I'd put more attention on bringing new blood in.

Another thing to consider would be to increase the resolution more in TWDD/TWLD. No matter what anyone says it will be a huge change to the game and it would force players to adapt. I think it would breathe some new life into an old league.

[death row]

Imo the best way to make sure subspace doesnt die, would be to merge zones. Seriously.

It has been done before in small scale and for example svs zones were forced to do that when the playerbase started to decline. After the merge (dueling zone etc) into chaos it kinda revived the zone for a good long time. Now it's losing players again just like tw and other zones seem to be doing also.

Tinkering with arenas and making small rule adjustments won't even delay the end for long, but perhaps making big adjustments and perhaps a merge or two would go a long way towards extending subspaces "life".

Sure, the newbies in zones would not perhaps like these adjustments, but hey they can still stick in their pub if they want to, not like they are contributing players (most of them) in leagues, elims, events (other than the newb events and mass-rapings like zombies). If you think about it, for example for twl it really doesn't matter if we have 1 or 4 pubs full of ppl playing while twl matches are being played. Sure some of them now and then decide to compete with other squads and perhaps start to play leagues and such, but relying on that for the source of new twd and twl players isn't the best way perhaps.

If we were to merge zones, it would make it easier for ppl to experiment with other settings, rules, arenas, leagues and just try out stuff and maybe start to like it. I know I'd love it. In any zone its the ppl who play in leagues and such that have the most talent and can adopt different settings the best (usually), with more ppl like that trying other zones it could seriously boost the playerbase, and in every zone there are the pub newbs who don't really play anything else and don't influence the number of squads in league or the level of competition. I mean come on, a lot of players in tw play other zones too (me included) and in other zones its the same way. I believe nowadays new talent comes from other zones perhaps even faster than from among the pubbers. Just look at some of the ppl playing in tw leagues.

This is something I think would work in the long run better than what we are doing now. I'd just hope staff in different zones would see how much bigger the benefits are compared to the smallish loss of zone independence.

For example I liked when zone66 was adapted into tw and played that some, but it was done so late the zone was pretty much dead already.

TW ideas:

Also we could try out some crazy stuff, like what about basing with like 15 v 15 or 12 v 12, with 2 entrances and perhaps 2 terrs and more flags or just 1 flag with 2 entrances or whatever. You get my point. Shake things up a bit. Let's at least try whats it like with twd twl caliber players instead of the usual mindless pubbers.

In spider league remove the bricks and make it about killing the other team out rather than points. Much more fun that way.

Merge elims, please do it before the arenas die out completely. What the hell are you waiting for?? Yes fancy new arenas, yet the old one with elim and belim merged was simply the best. Even ppl who complained about having to play with a jav or a wb still played, and got better.

Ok please comment.

:greedy:

It seems like baseelim is starting to pick up with it's activity. Now I have been inactive for a while now, but how are the hosting? I remember before we had great staff that hosted early and often. Would like to see that still be the case to keep people interested. Do more DM's and stuff, that was cool. Use to have that hosted a bunch.

The other thing is obviously trying to get new players get into the game and keep their interest up. I think the few people I've spoken to came in, flew in some lancs and then gave up. Problem is there are so many awesome games out there that a game like could easily bore them.

[Heroin Bob]

can you just decide on a day to take the server down? I am sick of these threads.

can't afford better games?

speak for yourself

[Vykromond]

And finally... So many of the players here on the forum and in the game are complete assholes. Immaturity is off the scale, especially for an old game. You'd expect most players to at least act a little older than the game itself. Nope.

Haha, why would you expect that? It's a free game so the only players it attracts are kids who can't afford better games. As older players flow out and newer, younger players flow in, the average age stays the same or decreases.

I think the thread that i created dosent exist anymore.No problem.I will explain everything back again.

We need a new public to aim the game for.
I mean,Look at our players, 90% are males like me, 5% are homosexual like you adam, 3% are fake-girls like bam ashlee, 1% are ugly girls like goddess and finally 1% are girls.

Something is wrong there. There are more females in the world than males. Why in our game we have more males than females???
I mean,the populatin can duplicate if we get the girls to play!!! :wub:

So i propose things to change.

First, look at the ships.

Warbird is made for males.Javelin,for girls (the ONLY girl ship). Spider is made for homosexuals. And the rest is for males, but for males with espessifiquis cahaharacteristicis: leviathan,for slow ppl, Terr for thin ppl, weasel for cowards,Lancaster for newbies,shark for fatasses.

Come on, WTF. we need MORE ships for girls.

We need to paint the ships with colors like pink,purple,etc. The explosion of some ships could be not parts of the ships going everywhere,but it could be hearts going everywhere when a ship gets exploded.

I dunno, there are INFINITE possibilities that arent hard to think about. All i know is that WE NEED to make this game a bit more girly.

Also remember,with more girls in this game it will also atract ALOT of other males players that are interessed to hit girls.

Imagine!! The number of naked pictures can increase,the drama can be bigger.things can be SO MUCH BETTER. WE NEED TO CHANGE.


We can make our population grow up 100%.

LOL


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, is this the future of Brasil??

I mean,Look at our players, 90% are males like me, 5% are homosexual like you adam, 3% are fake-girls like bam ashlee, 1% are ugly girls like goddess and finally 1% are girls.

[Nickname]

We just need to make sure we recruit girls with good cahaharacteristicis.

And not the girls with the bad cahaharacteristicis.