Resolution Limits

[Dezmond]

With res cap: Dezmond is out, 34 wins 10 losses
Without res cap: Dezmond is out, 10 wins 10 losses

Res cap ftw! :P

[Crescent Seal]

hey demonic


(Curse)>I COM 2 GR* RELIZIATION
(Curse)>i can still play on 1440x900

ur only supporter bailed, go ask him yourself

[Demonic]

I swear some people are just retarded if they claim that there should be no resolution limit in TWLD. It gives way too big of an advantage.

Limit TWLD to 1440x900 / 1280x1024. There's no reason to discuss that topic any further. Case closed.

(however, keep other divisions/leagues resolution limit capped at 1920x1440 -- resolution doesn't give an advantage in javs or basing)

no-one has suggested touching TWL, that remains it is. They are arguing TWD being changed down, not twl being increased.

[Turban]

I swear some people are just retarded if they claim that there should be no resolution limit in TWLD. It gives way too big of an advantage.

Limit TWLD to 1440x900 / 1280x1024. There's no reason to discuss that topic any further. Case closed.

(however, keep other divisions/leagues resolution limit capped at 1920x1440 -- resolution doesn't give an advantage in javs or basing)

no reso limit ftw

[rAiNbOw SeEkEr]

The majority of TW does not even play on absurdly high resolutions. In fact, if you look at the players who play in TWD, most of them are around 1280x1024 and 1440x900 (and its not hard to drop down a little). Some people are even below the old limits. It is actually a very select few who are taking advantage.

I have to agree with Kthx, if we can assume that all players can buy these expensive monitors, we should also assume they can pay for decent internet and set the lag limits accordingly.

[Crescent Seal]

lol demonic? i have only seen you stick up for higher reso so far.....do you guys ever listen to majority?????? sick of this shit

[death row]

JUST FYI:

I don't believe yall understand the impact that the no resolution limit has on the game. With 1280 1024 the warbird game has a great balance. The beautiful thing is that everyone has the same radar length, and the screen is the same for everyone. The competitiveness in TWLD has evolved directly from this. I think it is complete bullshit that you guys would go and shake this up this far down the line. How do you think it makes people feel that have been playing for years and mastered radar, midrange, close range ect? Take that newbie from pandora for example, because of yall striking down the rez limit, this kid goes and uses an ultra high resolution and is able to see people on his screen when to other people, he is on the edge of their radar. It gives him a huge advantage over everyone else. If you need proof, check the dudes twdd rec (its lasenza i think).

Demonic, I know you actually do play warbird some so I would expect you to realize that this is a colossal fuck up. But then again, yall seem to not even care.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Like my previous post, I think there needs to be more of an emphasis on what the players want. Not people that are in position of power, a select few, making the ultimate decision. If the majority of the people took a poll, and wanted there to be higher resolution that is not league acceptable, then by all means, keep it. But I'm pretty confident that you will get the other answer.

Allow this kind of stuff in pub, let them use this res in pub. But in a competitive setting, where TWD determines who makes TWL and who doesn't, those players have to abide by the resolution rules already set forth. Again, I know you said the decision was made Demonic, I understand. But if you really take a step back and look at the situation, I know you see our point. That there needs to be an official poll that determines what's best for the players involved. If the game is dying, you don't want to make rash decisions based off a few people and not the majority. I mean, am I wrong on this thought process?

[kthx]

I had these discussions with Demonic and Predator earlier today, thought some people might like to read them.

Also Predator and I agreed to make a poll and stick to the decision that people vote on.

[Scoop]

i think its important to constantly re-evaluate, the decision is for now, not a week down the line or next year etc.. Things constantly change drow as well you know. But i remember this arguments when ppl were playing on 800 by 600 and 1280 by 1024 was considered a good res, or when widescreens were used, and they were forced to drop down a res (1024 by something) so couldnt see as much as 1280 by 1024 people, and i think it will never go away no matter what happens.

JUST FYI:

I don't believe yall understand the impact that the no resolution limit has on the game. With 1280 1024 the warbird game has a great balance. The beautiful thing is that everyone has the same radar length, and the screen is the same for everyone. The competitiveness in TWLD has evolved directly from this. I think it is complete bullshit that you guys would go and shake this up this far down the line. How do you think it makes people feel that have been playing for years and mastered radar, midrange, close range ect? Take that newbie from pandora for example, because of yall striking down the rez limit, this kid goes and uses an ultra high resolution and is able to see people on his screen when to other people, he is on the edge of their radar. It gives him a huge advantage over everyone else. If you need proof, check the dudes twdd rec (its lasenza i think).

Demonic, I know you actually do play warbird some so I would expect you to realize that this is a colossal fuck up. But then again, yall seem to not even care.

[Demonic]

I don't agree with the decision, but it is what it is. Perhaps later on you can re-evaluate this topic or take a legit poll on this. I believe majority votes should be more important than a select few individuals that want to keep it. Right or wrong?

i think its important to constantly re-evaluate, the decision is for now, not a week down the line or next year etc.. Things constantly change drow as well you know. But i remember this arguments when ppl were playing on 800 by 600 and 1280 by 1024 was considered a good res, or when widescreens were used, and they were forced to drop down a res (1024 by something) so couldnt see as much as 1280 by 1024 people, and i think it will never go away no matter what happens.

[death row]

OK: Res limits have been discussed now between myself and pred, also with a few players and squad caps, and its very much damned if you do, damned if you dont. Many want to keep, many want to revert back. I think overall: Native resolutions have come along in the past 10 years, to the point where they are higher then old res caps.
As such the following decision has been made:

TWD Res limits will stay as they are.

I know some of you will be happy with this, while others wont. However, this is the decision that has been made.

I don't agree with the decision, but it is what it is. Perhaps later on you can re-evaluate this topic or take a legit poll on this. I believe majority votes should be more important than a select few individuals that want to keep it. Right or wrong?

[Zeebu]

i think you could still push it back for twl qualifications only, but i guess its not overly necessary. now that we have so few squads, it really doesnt matter. you know which squads will make it in. seeding doesnt exist for just the qualifications.

[Demonic]

OK: Res limits have been discussed now between myself and pred, also with a few players and squad caps, and its very much damned if you do, damned if you dont. Many want to keep, many want to revert back. I think overall: Native resolutions have come along in the past 10 years, to the point where they are higher then old res caps.
As such the following decision has been made:

TWD Res limits will stay as they are.

I know some of you will be happy with this, while others wont. However, this is the decision that has been made.

[kthx]

And on top of that this "no resolution limit" was supposed to be a test, and the test just mysteriously never ended because staff doesn't seem to understand that a test would mean there would be an end to that test. I am also thinking that this "test" was added at the same time the poll was given out (which was zoned several times a day for weeks btw so everyone had a say on it) that clearly states that players want a res cap.