TWDCup is a FAILURE - Still can be fixed.

[IxaDor]

If you are reading this, this topic has very little use to get any changes made. Tiny however created a thread with a great draft mark up that would allow actives the opportunity to join squads in a fair manner that won't cause "stacking" issues for TWD Cup. You can view that thread here http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthr...359#post913359

Cheers.

-IxaDor

[Jessup]

Paladen will or would accept tiny

[Tiny]

no u

[LF]

haha LF is out of the loop. we are not in twd cup

I'm well aware and I don't care lol. I was saying you're already on the worst squad, doofus

[Tiny]

You're already C what else do you want?

haha LF is out of the loop. we are not in twd cup

[LF]

soo.........Can we be drafted please? Will join worst squad and play and not whine. TY for this.

You're already C what else do you want?

[Tiny]

soo.........Can we be drafted please? Will join worst squad and play and not whine. TY for this.

[mtine]

the real question is though....did ANYONE actually have an issue with the original TWD points system we had in place for 15 years? Absolutely no one complained about getting negative points for a loss. Only fans of this change are the ones who can't win.

EDIT: Why was the points system ever played with? The points system WASN'T what made TWD inactive.

Jessup had something to do with it.

[Ricko]

the real question is though....did ANYONE actually have an issue with the original TWD points system we had in place for 15 years? Absolutely no one complained about getting negative points for a loss. Only fans of this change are the ones who can't win.

EDIT: Why was the points system ever played with? The points system WASN'T what made TWD inactive.

[Rasaq]

Because if everyone qualifies there's no reason to play TWD.

Makes complete sense. Paladen equals everyone, so I guess there's no reason to play TWD. Shit squad qualifying for a shit league.

[Rab]

if you guys really want to reward activity over skill why exclude any reasonably active squad from participation?

Because if everyone qualifies there's no reason to play TWD.

[Zeebu]

if you guys really want to reward activity over skill why exclude any reasonably active squad from participation?

[Rab]

If Rab, Henry, Wirah, ect. were on a team that got shafted by these rules, no doubt in my mind would they change it but since staff is secure, they don't give 2 shits.

Nah that's bollocks. If staff moved the goal posts people would go mental, that's partly why they're not moving it now.
p.s. I'm not staff.

Come on, Paladen has 1800 pts and a good 500 pts of that was just from losing.

It's 5 points per loss. The highest number of losses was Paladen's 42 losses in TWDD, so that's 210 points.
I did a spreadsheet of this a couple of weeks back: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
That's how I realised that changing from +5 to +0 for losses wouldn't change the ladder outcome.
You're right to point out that not losing points impacts points rewarded for a win, that's a bit complicated.

It's not just me or my squad who is upset about these bullshit rules, there are LOTS of people upset. You guys are just killing off more active players from this game by refusing to listen to us and you don't give a rip. It's unfortunate but not surprising. If you guys want this game to die so fuc|<ing bad, don't let me stop you. You guys are doing a phenomenal job! Keep it up!!!

Nobody's refusing to listen. There's discussion about the future of TWD/TSL/TWDT/Etc going on. Sounds to me like it's likely to solve most of what you've raised here for future seasons. I'll talk to folks about making some of it public because you'd defo be less annoyed if you were more informed.

[IxaDor]

Whatever, seems that everyone in charge is in favor of this bullshit so there isn't much else to say other than I am incredibly disappointed that A. people who have been active but didn't get in the top 5 can't join competing squads in hopes of play and B. that rather than have more games, more fun, more activity and more spectators by allowing all squads a chance to compete its going to stay to it only being the top 5 squads. If Rab, Henry, Wirah, ect. were on a team that got shafted by these rules, no doubt in my mind would they change it but since staff is secure, they don't give 2 shits. That's on them though, goes for the consequences for their actions they'll no doubt suffer in the long run from ousting so many active players.

I'd also like to note Rab, that yea, winning does net more points but the old system, you'd only get the most points by winning against squads above you on ladder. That is no longer the case here, it's increased tremendously against any squad played and pays out heavily no matter who you beat which made it nearly impossible for little squads who aren't playing 10-15 games a day to compete. Come on, Paladen has 1800 pts and a good 500 pts of that was just from losing. Our squad played 1-2 games every day, I also tried to incorporate people in spec and loved to borrow, just to get people active and yet it was never enough and we got nothing from it. Awesome!

It's not just me or my squad who is upset about these bullshit rules, there are LOTS of people upset. You guys are just killing off more active players from this game by refusing to listen to us and you don't give a rip. It's unfortunate but not surprising. If you guys want this game to die so fuc|<ing bad, don't let me stop you. You guys are doing a phenomenal job! Keep it up!!!

-IxaDor

[Zeebu]

i still think you put a pyramid system in place and then make 2 mandatory games per week at a scheduled time from the squads able to challenge you.