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  • mtine
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    Originally posted by Nameless View Post
    How much discussion do you really need in order to win a casual competition in an obsolete 2D game? If you haven't figured out how to play a ship in TW within a few hours of playing time in it, you aren't ever going to figure it out. Timeouts will not change that.

    I can't wait for the bot devs to put countless hours into this, only for it to be used exclusively by sore losers at 49-31 to waste everyone's time.
    Did you read any of the previous posts? Nope. It was suggested mostly in DDs/JDs and only until one team has 40 deaths. Later, no timeout is allowed. If only people would read, this game would be a much nicer place.

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  • Steep
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    You dont make any sense nameless. as miku said, its a mental pause, to change the momentum, regain confidence. Or is it that you never have that bad moment in your game?
    imo, this makes games more interesting/even. And im talking about duelings not base.
    also read the thread before replying

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  • Nameless
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    Originally posted by paradise! View Post
    ?? havent you seen the substitution mechanism? theres an intentional delay. You could make the timeout delay even longer, 5 or 10 seconds, and your scenario wont exist.

    this is crazy good idea. good way for teams to reorganize and discuss what to do if they are getting whomped.
    How much discussion do you really need in order to win a casual competition in an obsolete 2D game? If you haven't figured out how to play a ship in TW within a few hours of playing time in it, you aren't ever going to figure it out. Timeouts will not change that.

    I can't wait for the bot devs to put countless hours into this, only for it to be used exclusively by sore losers at 49-31 to waste everyone's time.

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  • Miku19
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    Well, if you'd really want to you could implement it in basing by saving the coords where people where when the timeout starts and warping them back to the same locations. Somehow needs spawn timers to stop (or actually, does it?).

    I think a timeout could be a good idea. Perhaps dd/jd isn't strategically as versatile as some real word sports, whatever. I've seen a lot of sport teams take timeouts just to cool off and think about what they're doing, though. After the timeout things have just magically fixed themselves. Timeouts are a way to disrupt the momentum.

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  • paradise!
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    Originally posted by Jason View Post
    if you're getting whomped, a timeout won't save you. a good squad that's kicking your ass is still gonna kick your ass, and all a timeout will do is postpone the inevitable. spaceships aren't a sport for fuck's sake. there's not a whole lot of strategy to be discussed as far as javs or birds are concerned. basing is the only league where a timeout would allow for some discussion (i.e. - "more under cover!" or some such shit), except to disrupt the flow/rhythm of the flag-holding team would be wrong so you can't have timeouts in basing, period.

    this is a crazy unnecessary idea.
    i havent really been thinking about this on the basing side. I don't even see how this is possible actually from that side. But in TWJD, one 30-second to 1-minute timeout would do a lot.

    You get a formal little time to maybe throw together an endgame strategy, looking at deaths, etc. It would work great against the teams that pound on you consistently throughout the game if you break your teaming even once mid-round. In javs, it is really easy to lose the flow of teaming for ~5 mins. Timeouts would fix this.

    ofc top squads won't like it. they won't want their prey to have a chance to re-organize at all.

    I say give it a shot, and youll see a lot of people will like it.

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  • Jason
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    ^^ what he said

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  • megaman89
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    or you can just yell and spam to them like I do during the game, who the fuk needs a timeout....wow

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  • Jason
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    if you're getting whomped, a timeout won't save you. a good squad that's kicking your ass is still gonna kick your ass, and all a timeout will do is postpone the inevitable. spaceships aren't a sport for fuck's sake. there's not a whole lot of strategy to be discussed as far as javs or birds are concerned. basing is the only league where a timeout would allow for some discussion (i.e. - "more under cover!" or some such shit), except to disrupt the flow/rhythm of the flag-holding team would be wrong so you can't have timeouts in basing, period.

    this is a crazy unnecessary idea.

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  • paradise!
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    Originally posted by Jason View Post
    twdd match is 49-48. it's 1 on 1 with 30 seconds left to go. losing team's guy is about to catch a shot to the face and... TIMEOUT!

    yeah, this won't be abused at all.
    ?? havent you seen the substitution mechanism? theres an intentional delay. You could make the timeout delay even longer, 5 or 10 seconds, and your scenario wont exist.

    this is crazy good idea. good way for teams to reorganize and discuss what to do if they are getting whomped.

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  • zih
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    would be good idea if the timeout actually specced the players like 5 secs after u actually hit the enter button so players wouldnt abuse it as hard

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  • Jason
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    Originally posted by Accord View Post
    wow, please read post and not just the title before replying. you would not be able to call a timeout once a team reaches 40 deaths, and this would apply more to javs and birds than to basing. and all im asking for is a trial, whats wrong with trying something new? goodness. bunch of fgts on forums.
    okay, so my example is an extreme, but even if it's 0-0 and a timeout is used to cheat a death, it's still abuse. and you know damn well that there are plenty of "fgts" in this game who will do just that. even if you set a delay before the command is initiated, how long are we talking? 30 seconds? too long? 15 seconds? not long enough?

    timeouts are completely unnecessary. if a guy has to up and leave, sub him. if you don't have a sub, too bad so sad.

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  • Supreme
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    Honestly, im opposed. Because 1. allowing this makes the game simpler, this game is not simple. I like a challenge. This will make the game simpler and the rules more difficult. 2. It stops the game, which is never a lot of fun.

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  • Accord
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    wow, please read post and not just the title before replying. you would not be able to call a timeout once a team reaches 40 deaths, and this would apply more to javs and birds than to basing. and all im asking for is a trial, whats wrong with trying something new? goodness. bunch of fgts on forums.

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  • Jason
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    twdd match is 49-48. it's 1 on 1 with 30 seconds left to go. losing team's guy is about to catch a shot to the face and... TIMEOUT!

    yeah, this won't be abused at all.

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  • Burnt
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    lol terrible idea

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