TWDT Ratings 2012

[PapaRaazi]

You see a player with a 8 or higher rating grouped with two people you never even heard of, you're going to make a pick on the group based off of what knowledge you have of the higher ranked player, thus allowing new players the opportunity to squad with people and get to know one another. Aura has his reasons and I back him up completely.

Don't all players get drafted anyways? don't see why groups are necessary for that

[With Ease]

Or...you could just select players individually in a snake draft because you know...it's a DRAFT league. Having someone arbitrarily set these groups before the draft begins cheapens everything. I can't think of a single positive of this grouping system. It allows new players the chance to squad with people? Really? There are other ways of making this happen without destroying the entire league.

[Hulk]

probably make M_M an 8 or at least higher and Ease a 10. thx

[midoent]

i dont think we have enoughp layers for 8 squads, id say 4 is a perfect number (face it there will be many no shows)

[midoent]

couldn't edit so wanted to add: jamal higher

[RednaZ]

I don't really see how these ratings are "overall higher than last season for everyone", in fact they seem mostly lower, by a lot.
Anyway, few remarks

Eric Clapton, should be a 7
Flared, shouldn't be more than a 7
JAMAL, should at least be an 8
Mikes, at least a 7
Trasher, no more than 7

[Slum]

??? it's overall rating...

and you probably need some 9s and more 8s

yea exactly, i didn't wanna know my overall rating, as i dont warbird/base anymore.

[Rasaq]

Not every player got drafted in previous years. There was always 50-75 people sitting in waivers. Quit bitching and let this play out. Every time somebody makes changes that they believe will allow everyone to have fun, people start throwing in their opinions to deter the ones in charge. Nothing ever gets done because of that. Then when staff is sitting around "not doing anything" as some of us assume, we bitch about how they're not doing anything to improve the zone.

[Ricko]

should have done the ratings for each individual ship as usual, this sucks and doesn't really represent peoples abilities in the leagues they focus on (I see some 5s-6s for good wbs who dont touch basing/javs?)

[Pressure]

should have done the ratings for each individual ship as usual, this sucks and doesn't really represent peoples abilities in the leagues they focus on (I see some 5s-6s for good wbs who dont touch basing/javs?)

The rating shouldn't be an average of your ability in 3 leagues, it should be the rating you got for the league you are best in. TWDT may conceptually be a league to judge someone's overall ability, but their overall ability may only correlate to one league (some people don't practice 2- or 3-league).

There will be people that get drafted strictly for their 1- or 2-league ability, and if this is the case they'll be playing for a cost of 5*-6* when their true worth is at a 7*-8* level. If this is supposed to be a newb friendly league that allows lower *'s the chance to play due to the *-limit-per-game, then why bring good players down to a newb level? The low *s are guys in the 2-5 range, so why are there good players at 5-6 if this is supposed to give newbs playing time?

For strategy, I would much rather have a team full of good 5*'s and 6*'s to consistently meet the * quota than have few, elite high *'s and more very low *'s.

Players are used in a lineup based on what they are worth per game. That is, if someone is a 8*, they are worth 8* for any game that they are added for. Even if they aren't an 8* for warbird, they're expected to play like one. Whereas, if someone is a 4* who really should be worth 6-7 for javelin, you're getting a major steal out of them since they can play for a lower value. Having "steals" in a league is usually fine when it's 1-3 players and they are not widely known to be useful, so that draft strategy comes into play, but when there are a lot of people in this category it defeats the purpose of the draft strategy (but so does the whole "group" thing, but I'm not going into that).

[Shaddowknight]

group drafting prevents captains from just picking their friends and ignoring the lower ranks
maybe not the best way to do it, but its how its being done right now

perhaps in the future, allows captains a certain number of picks and randomly distribute the lower half

[Aura]

Team captains will be rewarded for starting players at or under 4*. The requirements for "starting" follow the same guide lines as current TWL medal requirments. TWDT-D/TWDT-J: You must have at least 5 deaths or play a total of 10 minutes to qualify as starting. TWDT-B: You must have played at least 8 minutes to qualify as starting. A player at 4* and under will not only be free, but will subtract * from your weekly spending. A 4* player will give you a -1* star usage. A 3* player will give you a -2* usage. A 2* player will give you a -3* usage. A 1* player will give you a -4* star usage.

Rule change to accommodate newer players. Group draft idea scrapped after a lengthy discussion with about 10 players.

[Ricko]

pressure :- I can't tell if you're agreeing with me (which seems to be what you've written) or you've mis-understood what I wrote and are counter-arguing my point?

It just seems to me that the twdt ratings given have been selected upon biased views by basing/jav analysts as usual with very little input by warbirds who know their players around tw. Giving basers who don't touch warbird and rarely jav a rating of 7 whereas good warbirds who don't base seem to be given 5-6 rating....?

[Pressure]

pressure :- I can't tell if you're agreeing with me (which seems to be what you've written) or you've mis-understood what I wrote and are counter-arguing my point?

It just seems to me that the twdt ratings given have been selected upon biased views by basing/jav analysts as usual with very little input by warbirds who know their players around tw. Giving basers who don't touch warbird and rarely jav a rating of 7 whereas good warbirds who don't base seem to be given 5-6 rating....?

I was agreeing.

[PrOnEsSim]

Seems like theirs lots of basers in this list then other leagues. Lack of warbirds is eh.