TWDT 2017 Player Ratings -- PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD

[Smoking Blue]

why am i a 7 in jav? its the worst league and apart from hating JD, i almost never play it or care about it. Lets not forget i havent even played tw in a year. Learn to make proper ratings please. If i should get a 7 in an league it should be WB as its the onl one ive earned a medal on and ive beaten some high star warbirds in duel, soem aliased some on their main. 7 in base? lol so a guy who doesnt even play tw is on par with the majority of the zone. says alot about how crap this zone really is.

[Wirah]

I'm listed twice in that spreadsheet

[kess]

Agreed, I believe there are some who don't try 100% every round or are unrusting in tsl, that will greatly skew their rating when they start really practicing and playing twdt.

Add to that, the complete bs lineups that sometimes u have to face. There is a clear misjudgement on some players(impossible to get it 100% right) and you see mid tier players completely making games unfair due to severely outpeforming their counterparts

[Ricko]

I received an email with jav ratings from an email that wasn't signed. I'm parsing the ratings for clues, but nothing has turned up yet.

It's a mystery, I guess :huh2:


https://gyazo.com/5ec266cdbecbec8524f78eb7ceda21ed

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[ogron]

I received an email with jav ratings from an email that wasn't signed. I'm parsing the ratings for clues, but nothing has turned up yet.

It's a mystery, I guess :huh2:

https://gyazo.com/5ec266cdbecbec8524f78eb7ceda21ed

[Tiny]

Tsl is definetly the way to go when evaluating activity. But as far as skill goes, TSL is far from being a correct representation. I rather have some veterans reviewing the ratings than using TSL values.

Agreed, I believe there are some who don't try 100% every round or are unrusting in tsl, that will greatly skew their rating when they start really practicing and playing twdt.

[kess]

ratings don't need to be a subjective effort of 1 (or 5) guys, when we got math. lemme explain.

nearly everyone played tsl. calculate tsl average $ per game of all players who have played atleast 20 tsl games . say iron survivor is the best average $ with 25$/game avg, racka is 2nd best with 24$ avg. iron survivor is 10.0 as the best. racka a 9.6. (24$ is 96% of 25$) and so on for everyone.

for those select few that have not played a good sample of tsl in the 2 seasons, have the panel of 5 review them. with a much lesser amount of players to evaluate manually its more likely the panel can do more in-depth research.

if activity needs to be calculated, same deal - use tsl activity with the same trickle down system. no bias.

its less drama, quicker and more likely to be accurate, like pretty sure math wont support skyfroger have a higher total than ogron, geio, lasenza, thix etc.

Tsl is definetly the way to go when evaluating activity. But as far as skill goes, TSL is far from being a correct representation. I rather have some veterans reviewing the ratings than using TSL values.

[skyforger]

ratings don't need to be a subjective effort of 1 (or 5) guys, when we got math. lemme explain.

nearly everyone played tsl. calculate tsl average $ per game of all players who have played atleast 20 tsl games . say iron survivor is the best average $ with 25$/game avg, racka is 2nd best with 24$ avg. iron survivor is 10.0 as the best. racka a 9.6. (24$ is 96% of 25$) and so on for everyone.

for those select few that have not played a good sample of tsl in the 2 seasons, have the panel of 5 review them. with a much lesser amount of players to evaluate manually its more likely the panel can do more in-depth research.

if activity needs to be calculated, same deal - use tsl activity with the same trickle down system. no bias.

its less drama, quicker and more likely to be accurate, like pretty sure math wont support skyfroger have a higher total than ogron, geio, lasenza, thix etc.

[Ricko]

yeah I'm somehow an 8 in activity, whereas Ogron has 7....however I've played 20 games in TSL so far this season vs Ogron's 49. This will prob drop my rating!

[skyforger]

also activity rating a complete sham as well. i login only for leagues

compare skyforger vs ogron


tsl s2

activity rating 10 vs 7

tslb 11 games vs ogron's 14
tslj 16 vs 13
tsld 10 vs 22

lol.

[skyforger]

remove -10 accross the board pls. no way im meaningfully better than a vet like henry saari.

[Jessup]

please make me 65 rating in all ships , thanks

[kess]

I decided to sign up and im also available to review the jav/base ratings claus

[zidane]

i am definitely not capping if theres 60 signups... go talk to ur buddies and all vets like 24 should sign up even if ur burnt/cant show 100%. you think i want to cap? doing this to help zone and everyone who can show atleast 25% of games should sign up

[ogron]

food for thought on the current system/ratings in thread

It seems everyone is skewed upwards... maybe if you adjust the ranking or you're adding a category for "elite" players 0-85 yet there are only 4 players signed up that are between 80-85 rating. The others would be 77 elites such as Afri, Jessup, Kado. Meaning if you dont get one of the 4 players from 80-85 (Ogron/Turban/Zidane/Trasher) your team is severly disadvantaged.

Hey Kentaro. Good feedback. This is something I always look at, and I will do some bell curving/fitting to make sure there's a decent number of players at every slot. These aren't the finalized ratings, they're placeholders.

That said, part of captaining a TWDT team is choosing where you're going to focus your draft capital.

As for the TWDT-D Elite Player Slot (0-85), I disagree with your assessment that there are only 4 good candidates for the position.

Turban, Zidane, myself, and Trasher are solid picks, but Dreamwin has led his team to two straight TWDT-D Finals and plays on 4000 resolution, he's been a big factor in warbird in TWDT (with the exception of last season, where he played poorly.)

Zizzo and Stayon have sported similar profiles in warbird, 24 has been a TWDT-D monster for years winning two finals, Kess was in the Top 3 of TSLD for awhile and has shown some WB chops, Skyforger is emerging as a viable option in warbird through TSL, Temujin was a beast on Brexit last TWDT-D and reached the finals, Kira has been very good in TSLD, not u also had an excellent season leading ALF in TWDT-D, Tripin is a TWLD veteran who has also won TWDT-D as a starter, Stung is doing great in warbird ATM, Kado has been a solid warbird in TWDT-D, Cape can be an x-factor in WB if he shows, Absent has helped multiple TWDT-D teams reach the finals, Cranium is a former TWLD starter and he started for me on Baratheon when we reached the TWDT-D Semis in 2013, Murder and Flew are veterans, Weaver is a TWLD legend, ditto Guero and Paky Dude if they're active.

So I think there are a lot of viable options at that tier depending on who signs up, and frankly I don't think Turban/myself/Zid/Trasher are slam dunks. Turb melted down in the semis for me 2 seasons ago with like 3-10 and 2-10 performances, I fizzled out in the Semis last season, and Zid has struggled as well. There's some inconsistency in their games despite flashes of talent, which is to be expected from players who main ships in other leagues.

I consider them all a tier below the like Spezza/Kentaro/Geio tier, who have proven more in TWLD and been a bit more consistent, but we'll see what our warbird raters have to say.

Afterwards, I'll see how many of those players I just listed actually signup, then try to make sure there's an appropriate amount of players in each tier of each league for Captains to choose from.

I was just checking my rating first - but noticed the values are different between the main sheet and individual sheets, which should we be looking at?

I'm editing from the main page, so whatever is on the main page is correct.

what do the colors mean, and the various degrees of shading in the same colors

There are 3 different shades of color, and each represent the following:

Dark Yellow: Max Tier Slot (0-100)
Yellow: Elite Tier Slot (0-85)
Light Yellow: Veteran Tier Slot (0-75)
No Color: Amateur Tier Slot (0-65)

Basically, they visually tell you what Player Slot you can play them in. If you're Yellow, you can be slotted into either the Elite Tier or Max Tier Slot.

If you're Dark Yellow, you can only be started in the Max Tier Slot.

If you're uncolored, you can play in any slot.

In TWDT-D and TWDT-J, there are 2 Max Slots, 1 Elite Slot, 1 Veteran Slot, and 1 Amateur slot in the starting 5. You can read more about it here.