Holland game

[DOTSY]

never started a thread befor but this has to be the right place

any one seens the match of holland ?

what do u guys think of the sub of Robben -> bosvelt (bench at manchester city normally) tHAT WAS RIDICULIOUS ! :down: Advocaat screwed a almost sertan win up.

yeah lets sub in a benchplayer, that is good for the teamspirit, let everybody play !

Bosvelt didn't defend Nedvet at the 2-2 and the ball on the bar was also a fault of that freaking dude.

Then u also get that ridicilious ref that didn't gave 2 penalty's and the red card to some1 who didn't do nothing :down:

well, the guys did it all by themselfs, but oh oh the ref and Advocaat were not really with us so what do u think ?

[Pyros]

I think czech deserved the win, you forgot to mention nistelrooy scored while taking advantage of an offside position.

[DOTSY]

true, the ofside position, but they deserved at least a point

[Kim]

Czech got shietty uniforms. I'm gonna see if i can get a good holland shirt, plus get it numbered and named. Nowhere have i seen actually sold the holland shirt with the prints

[Zerzera]

I think czech deserved the win, you forgot to mention nistelrooy scored while taking advantage of an offside position.

Read the new regulation you newbie. I bet the new rules also allow you to hold down and attacker in the penalty area to prevent him from scoring.
ah I am just being emotional, I think subbing Bosvelt in (He is as good as Zenden, wich is not good enough for European football) was a tactical error killing the match.

But I was sure that the referee would be send home after the totti incident, where totti recieved a yellow card for what will be the worst foul this whole EC.
No, he get's another match to screw up. He didn't even remember he already had given Heitinga the yellow card, then he gives him a second over a schwalbe of Nedved. We lost this match ourselves, but that referee must be send home, he doesn't meet the standard.

WARNING! IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU:

[DOTSY]

yeah, the ref, well what can u say good about him ? nothing, so move on to the bad part

he missed 2 penalty's, 2x hands, that 2nd yellow was ridicioulus, and many more :down:

i got this quote for ya :

1:Lothlas> Sure the referee didnt have his best game ever, but all blame must go to dutch coach for being a fucking ignorant moron.

normally u guys say, how can a ref be so effective in a match, because the players play the game, well this is once again an example of the other side of that story

[Zerzera]

Bosvelt was put in to defend and guard Nedved. Did you see him? No.
While he was in, a goal is made over his side. (great goal).
He lets Nedved loose, Heitinga has to make up and gets screwed.
Nedved gets to shoot (WHERE IS BOSVELT?) and hits the bar.

Ok, if you want to defend a 2-1 advantage, then at least put in a defender, not Paul Bosvelt.

[Mythrandir]

What I don't understand, and then not for this match in particular, is the tremendous power referees have over the game. They can make horrible mistakes, and nobody seems to care.

If a ref fucks up in TWL, the game gets replayed. If a ref fucks up in the EC, he gets the chance to make a joke out of another match and effectively removing an entire COUNTRY from the championship.

[Displaced]

What I don't understand, and then not for this match in particular, is the tremendous power referees have over the game. They can make horrible mistakes, and nobody seems to care.

If a ref fucks up in TWL, the game gets replayed. If a ref fucks up in the EC, he gets the chance to make a joke out of another match and effectively removing an entire COUNTRY from the championship.

welcome to the real world, its the same thing in hockey, where we got screwed by some canadian asshat of a ref.

[Dabram]

Dick really pissed me off aswell. I even tried to understand why Dick (very suitable name for an idiot coach) would've subbed out the best player in the field for the most useless player in the team, Bosvelt, a 33y old player who is a sub at an avarage english team, Man city. There can only be one solution, since I don't believe there can be a coach who is that fucking stupid, ze Germans have paid Dick a shitload of money.

I don't get how Holland, who have a lot of quality tactical coaches, use this defensive-thinking nervous little shithead as coach, while we have people like Johan Cruijf and Co Adriaanse. I'd seriously hope next time someone like Jan Mulder would become coach of the dutch team. Hell, I'd vote for him in politics aswell. Jan Mulder for president!

But yeh, chances we will go through are immense small. And that's a fucking shame if you see how we play with a good lineup (first half). The Czechs will simply play their b-lineup and not care much, and ze Germans will of course try to fuck us over, which they're very good at. I expect us to beat Latvia with like 4:0 or 5:0 and Germany will beat the Czechs with 1:0 by a goal in the 93th minute from some typical terrible German player like Bobic.

But if we somehow manage to get thru, I'm putting all my hope on Heinz (sp?) and that goalie Czech, I hope Dick gets put under so much pressure that he actually starts to play our best players and not our "most experienced" players. In my eyes we just need to get rid of these defensive midfielders that are called defensive midfielders not because they're so great in marking but because they simply can't give a creative pass and only can pass the ball backwards. Like Cocu and Bosvelt, these guys haven't been marking their man succesfully in any of their last 500 games, and simply can't make any openings and would easily miss a shot for open goal. The worst part is that Cocu is our captain, this guy has zero influence and has been choking every game I saw him play in.

Our ideal lineup would be:

Of course 4-3-3, that's what we're good at.

V.d Sar / Bouma, Stam, Heitinga, Reiziger / Davids, Seedorf, Sneijder / Robben, v. Nistelrooij, V.d. Meyde


Of course then there's the terrible ref aswell who fucked us over. A ref like that should simply not be reffing in an important cup like the EC, especially after his awful reffing in Italy v Denmark he should've been send home. This is like a deja-vu of WC in Korea and Japan, with those great Ecuadorian referees. But as much as I'd like to blame the ref, it's really not that much his fault. We all know who to thank for putting our fate in the hands of our "archenemy" ze Germans and that is Dick Advocaat.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Czech got shietty uniforms. I'm gonna see if i can get a good holland shirt, plus get it numbered and named. Nowhere have i seen actually sold the holland shirt with the prints

[cundor]

lolz!
conc 4 holland

[DOTSY]

i mean, yeah myth, that was fucking insanity, a ref ... that didn't saw the spitting of totti, and what about the fucking tackle ? HE COULD HAVE BROKEN HIS LEG AND BE AN INVALIDE FOR THE REST OF HIS FUCKING LIFE!

how on eath did they gave him another match ? i mean... are they blind ?

ridicioulus ref :down:

[Due]

shit happens, just let it pass ppl

nothing that u can do about it or find out where he lifes & burn his house down.

[Jeansi]

What I don't understand, and then not for this match in particular, is the tremendous power referees have over the game. They can make horrible mistakes, and nobody seems to care.

If a ref fucks up in TWL, the game gets replayed. If a ref fucks up in the EC, he gets the chance to make a joke out of another match and effectively removing an entire COUNTRY from the championship.

Cus it's pretty much easier to ref a TWL game than a football match. In the game a player pretty much can't do anything illegal even if he wishes to.

Nedved and Heinz totally rocked hollands butt. I mean omg, that one shot went right trough van der saars hands even though he got to the ball in good time!

And I think Nistelrooys goal shouldn't have been accepted.