Michael Moore / Farenheit 9/11

[spamon_xa]

This movie, like his other documentaries... is pure horse hockey...

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

... I had heard quite some time ago about Clark (security advisor at the time of 9/11)... and I'm sure with all his research, so did Moore... funny that even with the entire basis of the film undermined... Moore still attests that it is true... [saw him going on about his flick on Conan O'Brien a couple of weeks ago]

... if you want my commentary and more direct links [so you can sift through things that sound interesting versus actually going through all of it... it is a bit much] ... go here: http://llahlahkje.livejournal.com/

Cheerio!

[Cawdor]

This movie, like his other documentaries... is pure horse hockey...

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

... I had heard quite some time ago about Clark (security advisor at the time of 9/11)... and I'm sure with all his research, so did Moore... funny that even with the entire basis of the film undermined... Moore still attests that it is true... [saw him going on about his flick on Conan O'Brien a couple of weeks ago]

... if you want my commentary and more direct links [so you can sift through things that sound interesting versus actually going through all of it... it is a bit much] ... go here: http://llahlahkje.livejournal.com/

Cheerio!

People seem to either like Michael Moore or hate him. I feel that this is beside the point. If you really believe that Moore's documentrys are full of lies, you really have your head up you ass. Do you really think for one nano-second that he could get away with his accusations if they were not based in fact? If I was George W and Moore made these "supposedly false" accusations about me, I'd sue his ass for slander. W isn't even the only one in the film who should be pissed. Moore should be reeling from lawsuit after lawsuit if this movie is in any way false.

It boggles my mind that anyone can support this joke of a president. Speaking as a non-american, I find it difficult to believe many people other than the CNN brainwashed masses in the US, would agree with you that George W Bush and his administration is anything but corrupt and evil.

Bash Moore all you like, but you've missed the point of the film.

[Jerome Scuggs]

So now things can be legit just be being "based in fact"? So if i made a video splicing several moore interviews into a giant gay-bashing racist hatefest by simply moving words here and there, it would be totally true because hey, the interviews were "based in fact"

[winipcfg]

Is this movie even worth seeing? I had some interest in seeing it, but now, from what I've heard, it just seems like a waste of time and an indirect promotion for the Democratic party.

[Cawdor]

So now things can be legit just be being "based in fact"? So if i made a video splicing several moore interviews into a giant gay-bashing racist hatefest by simply moving words here and there, it would be totally true because hey, the interviews were "based in fact"

Bad choice of words on my part. Whether you agree with what Moore has done with editing or not. The facts are the facts. The facts show that the war is wrong, and Bush is a moron.

[Jerome Scuggs]

But now the facts also show micheal moore is a biggot and homophobe. Whether you agree with my hypothetical video or not.

[winipcfg]

Bad choice of words on my part. Whether you agree with what Moore has done with editing or not. The facts are the facts. The facts show that the war is wrong, and Bush is a moron.

"Facts" can be spun to represent different opinions. And that's exactly what you're doing.

[Cawdor]

But now the facts also show micheal moore is a biggot and homophobe. Whether you agree with my hypothetical video or not.

I see the point you are trying to make. I don't want to get into a big flame war with you. My point is, that regardless of what you think of Moore or Farenhiet 9/11, the movie is trying to show whats wrong with what has happened in the past 4 years.

CNN mis-reports "fact" every single day. Its tough to be correct and current. History reveals mistakes. The difference is CNN is pro-Bush. Its un-american to be anti-Bush so anyone who argues must hate America.

While neither CNN nor Farenhiet 911 is 100% accurate, the facts are somewhere in between. The problem is, almost nobody except for Moore is showing the other side of things. You can't EVER rely on one information source to get the facts. Do your own reasearch, you'll find that he's closer to the truth than you think. I myself am a bit of a news junkie. I try to get news form as many foreign sources as possible because I believe that most American media is controlled by the government in one way or another. It seems odd to me that if this is not the case, then why is the BBC's coverage so much different than CNNs. Don't take my word for it, check for yourself.

[Cawdor]

But now the facts also show micheal moore is a biggot and homophobe. Whether you agree with my hypothetical video or not.

Its true, you could do that. A little research will show you that most of Moores staff is black and therefore its unlikely a biggot. No matter how you spin facts, the truth will show through under scrutiny.

[Jerome Scuggs]

Hmm, his staff is black, staff is what he bosses around all day- he obviously hired them because he feels superior

[Cawdor]

Hmm, his staff is black, staff is what he bosses around all day- he obviously hired them because he feels superior

lol Point taken.

[Jerome Scuggs]

I am sorry if i'm overhwelming you with useless logic backed up by whimsical ideas...you would understand if you knew who Erathia was and what sharing the same chat with him for a month has done to me.

twitch.

[Mitch]

I saw the movie and I was pretty much disapointed. Thoug I agree with a large majority of what Michael Moore portrayed in his film and the horrible ideology of Bush Administration, it's so one sided and biased that the mockumentary loses whatever credibility it had because it doesn't point out whatever good things (lol are there any) of the Bush Presidency.

I bet, if Moore had pointed out the "good things" of the last 4 years he'd be much more able to be effective and get his message across to the viewer. In fact, he would because the good things Bush has done have mostly lead to horrible after effects.

All said and done, it's what Americans with sharp minds have been saying against the deep pocketed single-agenda selfish Republicans.

It's a waste of money to see it; Better off getting a laugh with Shrek II or Dodgeball because I got almost no enlightenment from it.

[Kolar]

You either like or hate him. I on neither side but at least he's trying to bring things out into the open. He gives you the facts then his opinion but then lets you figure it out (this is where you say "It makes you think..." because you've been trained not too.)

I don't think he lies in what he attempts to uncover but some of it is kinda hard to believe. If you're not viewing his work for entertainment value at least go at it with a critical mind not an open one.

I see a recurring occurence on this and many other forums where flamers comming to the defense of GW Bush more often these days, i'm not sure why. Most slander Mr. Moore, which is getting annoying. regardless of who he is or what he does or his political opinions; his heart is in the right place as far as respect for his people, his country and the truth.

PS Dodgeball rocked. If you're a cheap SOB, Suprnova has a good copy of it.

[winipcfg]

I am sorry if i'm overhwelming you with useless logic backed up by whimsical ideas...you would understand if you knew who Erathia was and what sharing the same chat with him for a month has done to me.

twitch.

Erathia is weird...

Speaking of Dodgeball, that was a pretty funny movie.