[MAFIA] AWOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Jessup]

Paul u here? Want to switch to willby?

[Jessup]

Current Votes:

fiS- 4 (Jessup. Voth, Paul, Zeebu)

Willby- 3 (fiS, Exalt,Missa)

Undercut- 1 (Willby)

N/A: Undercut

[ixt]

Like I said Exalt, I?m down to vote out Willby as well. I just want to be on the same page and make a decision we all feel good about.

Ixt whats the ETA on phase change?

Just woke up. In ~2 hours.

[Voth]

You and your trivial insults mean nothing. You and your fake questioning of Will mean nothing. It's already quite a wonder I'm alive, still. Perhaps killing me would prove I'm town and validate a few of my votes? Hm. Whatever, man. Can't wait to see how your boy Undercut votes and why.

So about that intel that implicated me as scum? does it exist? If so, is there a reason why we cannot share it with the class right now?

[the_paul]

Like I said Exalt, I?m down to vote out Willby as well. I just want to be on the same page and make a decision we all feel good about.

Ixt whats the ETA on phase change?

[Missa]

Oh and by the way, remember that intel that you said you had on me trying to get me lynched last day phase? Any reason why you cannot give it up now? Or does not exist?

You and your trivial insults mean nothing. You and your fake questioning of Will mean nothing. It's already quite a wonder I'm alive, still. Perhaps killing me would prove I'm town and validate a few of my votes? Hm. Whatever, man. Can't wait to see how your boy Undercut votes and why.

[Voth]

Yeah, you're next on my mafia hit list.

Oh and by the way, remember that intel that you said you had on me trying to get me lynched last day phase? Any reason why you cannot give it up now? Or does not exist?

[Voth]

Yeah, you're next on my mafia hit list.

Sorry that you have hard feelings about past games, but do you even attempt to flex that large brain before posting?

[Missa]

Anyone have thoughts about my second paragraph here?

Yeah, you're next on my mafia hit list.

[Voth]

Highly doubt mafia has a Cop. We know that Willby did not die for some reason, and only way is a roleblocker or doctor.

Anyone want to speculate on why Willby has not voted Fis yet? Seems like a pretty easy wagon to jump on for him with the reasoning of self-preservation alone. Yet here we are and he has a throw away vote in. Personally, I think his plan got pegged and he is about to watch the double kill die with fis, and he is clinging to the idea that people may yet still flip to him.

Anyone have thoughts about my second paragraph here?

[Voth]

Exalt, I need to get in front of a computer to adequately
respond to that post. I agree with some of what you are saying and disagree with others. Generally, you seem to be under the impression that mafia is black and white, and there is only one right play at any time. Mafia involves gut feelings and risk taking - there are shades of gray. The mathematically best play is not always the best. Sometimes following your gut is. And sometimes it is not. I am keeping my vote on fis.

[Missa]

Vote: Willby

My perspective still stands and it should've been relevant when I used my night action on him and I was blocked. HMMMM.

[WillBy]

Okay, I missed the alpha/poison part.



While I do understand #1, and yes this is a possibility, I can't grasp what you're trying to say with #2.
This day phase, Missa said she targetted you and you didn't die, then went MIA. She announced it before and she confirmed it afterwards. Busdriver is an option certainly, but I don't think for this setup.

Good night everyone.

For morning fiser and anyone else reading this, a good bait as vigi (or sk) is to say "I'll kill X" so mafia leaves you alone and you are free to kill Y. That's actually what I'd hoped would happen. Missa used it as a bait or something...

[fiS]

Okay, I missed the alpha/poison part.

Let's try a little thought exercise exalt/fis. You're sitting here as mafia, game is going well. The town vigilante announces who they'll shoot. You have 2 options: allow it to happen, or dont. If you allow it to happen, sure it's one less townie alive, but the better play is actually to block it. Why? Let me clarify.

1,By blocking the kill, the mafia makes the target look very scummy indeed, setting them up for a lynch that day. Lynching a townie during the day is better for scum than killing one at night because scum is off the chopping block the next day

2, the vigi might change their mind and shoot one of them instead. Or there could be a busdriver (unlikely this game)


Can you at least acknowledge that this is a viable (if not the better) play for scum?

While I do understand #1, and yes this is a possibility, I can't grasp what you're trying to say with #2.
This day phase, Missa said she targetted you and you didn't die, then went MIA. She announced it before and she confirmed it afterwards. Busdriver is an option certainly, but I don't think for this setup.

Good night everyone.

[Jessup]

We should agree this vote is fis or willby. The fact willby was blocked from a poison kill by missa means we either have a useless doctor who did an action that hurt town gaining knowledge and refuses to speak up or mafia has a roleblocker. If mafia has a roleblocker it is in voths favor for his second town protective power role claim. This is why I backed off of voth a little but feel very iffy about him still.

Exalt made a good point about why we should go after willby. I've seen way more disturbing evidence from fis' posts than willby's posts to this point though.

We may even have a 3rd party even but zero evidence to support that so far. This is why I'm wondering about the lovers roles and how it effects game play for them.

Again I'm waiting for missa and undercut. Sucks town is being sabotaged by inactives , It is making the game unfair.