TW Mafia: Sweet Vengeance

[ixt]

VC would be appreciated soon RoDNeY also thanks for the quicklinks

[Voth]

Please don't make me roleclaim fully... lol.

[sdrawkcab]

Vote voth

super fucking scummy making it a 3 way tie in the middle of the night exalt

[sdrawkcab]

I am claiming a role other than Vanilla townie, and I
am not a Saint. That's all I will say at this point.

Exalt voth didn't claim venge u idiot?

[ixt]

this is not the correct way of going about this. any anti-town could gladly accept themselves while anyone whos actually town and wanting to play the game properly could hesitate, and then youll pin them as Mafia or anti-town? ANYONE could say "oh i can be that one"

[Beast]

How many of you are willing to sacrifice yourself right now to prove your loyalty to town? IF you aren't, then i'm going to make a target list with exalt, and Target non loyal townies.

.1 Beast

[ixt]

and im not for one to vote on Grand if he actually is SuperSaint townie as he has claimed to me.

[ixt]

Feel free to lynch me if you are so suspicious. I'll just shoot Voth myself then. He's not town, and I'm thinking you might be his scum buddy based on how you've both broke character and jerked each other off all game.

If you think Grand is scum and Voth is town, then Voth being lynched 100% should kill Grand, correct? If Grand gets lynched, then whoever voted last on him dies too, correct? So then, someone dies either way, yet Voth refuses to be the one to die to kill him? Why should any other player die for Voth's crusade that derailed the entire game, considering even if Grand is scum, his buddies have skated by without any pressure due to all the focus being on Grand. If Voth is 100% sure Grand is scum, then he should be willing to die to prove that, since someone will die to prove it either way.

As for you, I dont see why you'd give a shit if Voth died or someone else did in taking out Grand, so please explain why you are defending him? The same outcome happens no matter what, except Voth has to lay in the bed he made for himself, rather than have some other idiot sacrifice themselves over it. Why do you care more about Voth staying alive than any other townie? What makes you so sure Voth is town?

As for grand, what argument could I add? I've not said his name 50 times in every post, but it's easy enough to click on my name and look through recent post history to find out what I did say already. Do the legwork yourself if you want to make a case on me. Why are you asking for others to do it for you? That's a scum 101 move.

dunno if u misinterpreted, but all i wanted was to fit in some pieces together to see whats up. Personally, i feel uneasy about the Grand train as i said before; but hell, it could be as previously mentioned my bar is not set as high as yall. And the "tunnel vision" could be debated but indeed true, but he did consider options like how i brought up field's case.

[Exalt]

Then what do YOU feel about Grand? I'm not sure u mentioned much about him this entire process, as more of that Ive paid attention to in your comments are simply the Vengeful vs SuperSaint. If anyone is willing to dig up Exalt posts, where does he illustrate his own opinion on Grand? If there is none, my suspicion on Exalt just skyrocketed. If there is, Ill consider this thought on Voth.

Feel free to lynch me if you are so suspicious. I'll just shoot Voth myself then. He's not town, and I'm thinking you might be his scum buddy based on how you've both broke character and jerked each other off all game.

If you think Grand is scum and Voth is town, then Voth being lynched 100% should kill Grand, correct? If Grand gets lynched, then whoever voted last on him dies too, correct? So then, someone dies either way, yet Voth refuses to be the one to die to kill him? Why should any other player die for Voth's crusade that derailed the entire game, considering even if Grand is scum, his buddies have skated by without any pressure due to all the focus being on Grand. If Voth is 100% sure Grand is scum, then he should be willing to die to prove that, since someone will die to prove it either way.

As for you, I dont see why you'd give a shit if Voth died or someone else did in taking out Grand, so please explain why you are defending him? The same outcome happens no matter what, except Voth has to lay in the bed he made for himself, rather than have some other idiot sacrifice themselves over it. Why do you care more about Voth staying alive than any other townie? What makes you so sure Voth is town?

As for grand, what argument could I add? I've not said his name 50 times in every post, but it's easy enough to click on my name and look through recent post history to find out what I did say already. Do the legwork yourself if you want to make a case on me. Why are you asking for others to do it for you? That's a scum 101 move.

[Beast]

I think a triple lynch triple kill combo in one phase would be absolutley fucking hilarious to see, almost as much as getting a 3fer in a twjd match. I'm tempted to see!

[ixt]

I've been sort of lurking over the last however many pages to get a feel for things a bit better, and honestly... I'm thinking Voth might be scum. He won't stop focusing solely on grand, won't allow himself to vote last on grand, won't admit his role, and he claims it's some special PR even though there's no night phase. The only PR he could have then is dayvig (which he'd have used on grand if he was one) or bulletproof, which is likely something a Godfather scum player would have. Any other role that could be used during the day doesn't make sense to hide like he has done. Beyond that, focusing on grand and grand alone all game just seems weird. The only time that happens is when a player has a confirmation they caught scum due to a night action, which obviously isnt the case here.

Vote: Voth

The VC may be in a 3 way tie now, I'm not sure, but any of the other voters are welcome to unvote and/or move their vote onto any of the 3 being wagoned. If Voth is town, then he can use his vengeful kill on grand, which is the same result as if he voted last on grand. If Voth is scum, then maybe he doesn't have a vengeful kill idk, but I dont care if he's scum anyway. Voth can solve this problem himself by killing grand after he gets lynched, since he's focused on grand and grand alone for 11 pages straight, and I'm sick of reading the same argument rehashed 10000 different ways. If grand is scum, then Voth should want to trade with him 1 for 1 anyway. That's a win for town on Day 2, so I dont see how he could object beyond personal 'I'd rather play than watch from the sideline' reasons.

Then what do YOU feel about Grand? I'm not sure u mentioned much about him this entire process, as more of that Ive paid attention to in your comments are simply the Vengeful vs SuperSaint. If anyone is willing to dig up Exalt posts, where does he illustrate his own opinion on Grand? If there is none, my suspicion on Exalt just skyrocketed. If there is, Ill consider this thought on Voth.

[Beast]

If Exalt is scum, then I fear him the most, other then that, I agree with everything he said.

[Exalt]

Yea you idiots it's grand-3 field-3 voth-2 right now if scum hammer voth for a fucking A TRIPLE LYNCH WITH VENGES AND SUPERSAINTS COULD MEAN GAME COULD END THIS PHASE IF THERE ARE 3+ SCUM PLEASE CONSOLIDATE VOTES IF YOU ARE TOWN!!!!

11 alive, 6 die in a triple lynch... 5 left, if 3 scum gg

Then stop whining about it in all caps and change your vote to Voth. You say you wanna sacrifice yourself to kill grand, well then why wouldn't Voth? Unlike other players, it is assured that Voth will shoot grand if he's town, so what's the issue here? Vote Voth and end the tie you pretend to be afraid of.

[Exalt]

I've been sort of lurking over the last however many pages to get a feel for things a bit better, and honestly... I'm thinking Voth might be scum. He won't stop focusing solely on grand, won't allow himself to vote last on grand, won't admit his role, and he claims it's some special PR even though there's no night phase. The only PR he could have then is dayvig (which he'd have used on grand if he was one) or bulletproof, which is likely something a Godfather scum player would have. Any other role that could be used during the day doesn't make sense to hide like he has done. Beyond that, focusing on grand and grand alone all game just seems weird. The only time that happens is when a player has a confirmation they caught scum due to a night action, which obviously isnt the case here.

Vote: Voth

The VC may be in a 3 way tie now, I'm not sure, but any of the other voters are welcome to unvote and/or move their vote onto any of the 3 being wagoned. If Voth is town, then he can use his vengeful kill on grand, which is the same result as if he voted last on grand. If Voth is scum, then maybe he doesn't have a vengeful kill idk, but I dont care if he's scum anyway. Voth can solve this problem himself by killing grand after he gets lynched, since he's focused on grand and grand alone for 11 pages straight, and I'm sick of reading the same argument rehashed 10000 different ways. If grand is scum, then Voth should want to trade with him 1 for 1 anyway. That's a win for town on Day 2, so I dont see how he could object beyond personal 'I'd rather play than watch from the sideline' reasons.

[Beast]

Anyone is welcome to vote for me, so voth can confirm when we both die without me having to write a novel on why I vote and switch votes.