Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

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I think you're right about this as well. We have a dead cop and a dead weaponsmith. For the sake of argument, let's take PF at his word that his role was sort of like a metal detector and he wasn't handing out guns, which basically makes him a second cop.

With that being said, it seems unlikely both Beast and ixt have protective roles. So someone is lying.

I had no idea Beast had claimed a protective role. When did that come about? Beast has always been sus to me until it seemed possible for him to be a jester. Now that jester has been debunked by popular opinion (and just being a terrible role to throw in a game), my suspicion is back on him. When did he say he was protective? The only thing I can turn up is he said something to the effect of "the longer I stay in the game, the more scum and third party will drop" - to me this says he has a weapon, or is just boasting in his VT ability to get the right people lynched.

I don't know if I need to remind anyone, but Beast has claimed a powerful role he dare not name, then later claimed to have no special power. To me that's shifty.

Kassius. I meant what I said, which is that I really can't remember the post you're referring to. The only one that comes to mind is the one with 4 numbered points you made that I addressed with bolded words in the quote code. I don't really think you'll be convinced by anything I've got to say, so I'm done trying with your vote.

[Beast]

lol hap wanting me to do a FULL ROLE CLAIM LOL

maybe if you were paying attention to the thread, you would have known many pages ago I said my true nature, and role, why so interested in it all of the sudden? there's only two logical explanations, either i'm the actual godfather, or i'm just a boring townie. Take your pick.

[the_paul]

I had no idea Beast had claimed a protective role. When did that come about? Beast has always been sus to me until it seemed possible for him to be a jester. Now that jester has been debunked by popular opinion (and just being a terrible role to throw in a game), my suspicion is back on him. When did he say he was protective? The only thing I can turn up is he said something to the effect of "the longer I stay in the game, the more scum and third party will drop" - to me this says he has a weapon, or is just boasting in his VT ability to get the right people lynched.

I don't know if I need to remind anyone, but Beast has claimed a powerful role he dare not name, then later claimed to have no special power. To me that's shifty.

Kassius. I meant what I said, which is that I really can't remember the post you're referring to. The only one that comes to mind is the one with 4 numbered points you made that I addressed with bolded words in the quote code. I don't really think you'll be convinced by anything I've got to say, so I'm done trying with your vote.

I had completely forgotten about this, and it is compelling. Fuck me if I almost died trying to protect a scum member day 1, but at least we got the mafia roleblocker as a tradeoff if this is the case. Looking forward to hearing what Beast has to say today

[Beast]

obviously I was trolling, saying I was a 5shot, after I already said I was vanilla townie day one. lol.

[Beast]

scum arent gonna waste there time killing a normal townie with no powwers.

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1. Ixt - I'm inclined to believe ixt was doing his job as bodyguard for N2. However, as I write this one thing comes to mind which is that bodyguards die when they use their ability successfully. They take the bullet for the person they were protecting. ixt since you've got a longstanding familiarity with mafiascum, what are possible outcomes where the bodyguard wouldn't die even though they got a success? Is it as simple as Willby bodyguards not dying, or something else I can't imagine.
2. Beast - See above. Also he just votes whoever votes on him, which is not only erratic, it doesn't show any effort to join the town on pursuing mafia lynches.
3. Vehicle - D2 I didn't think this guy was mafia but now that he's coming around and posting more I do have my eye on him now (apparently so does everyone voting on him)
4. Kassius - Thinks I'm mafia. I want to believe this guy is as innocent/newbie as he seems, but the aggressive stance on wanting double lynches when it wasn't an open and shut case makes me wary. The role seems believable enough but only time will tell because we'd be looking 2 phases into the future at D4 to see if he successfully blocks a mafia hit.
5. Hookecho - ??? I've barely seen this guy though he is now an ER in spaceships. I don't know what to say about my suspicion level for this guy.
8. The_paul - This guy is a sneaky snake, though right now I'm forced to assume townie because of D1 lynch.
11. Voth - I've voted Voth in the past and still feel a level of scummitude but I don't have any strong convictions about it right now besides the fact that Voth keeps bringing up that mafia would be ridic to bus one of their own on D1. Why do you keep bringing that up? Hmm.
12. Kthx - As one of the subs with PF I'm inclined to think this guy might be scum, as Voth and the_paul have said. One townie and one scum to join the fray in place of Bioture and Missa?
13. Halp - Claims VT. Hasn't contributed much, sort of same boat as Hookecho. However, I really am inclined to think he is not scum because sdrawcab voted him first post of the game. Sdrawcab voted these 3 persons in this order, Halp, Exalt, and (postmortem) Beast. I'm willing to excuse halp on this basis, but not Beast because sdrawcab claimed to not know he was dead at the time.

tl;dr I'm inclined to Vote Beast for now.
Eyeing: Hookecho, Voth, kthx
Fine IMO: ixt, Kassius, the_paul, Halp
I don't know: Vehicle

[ixt]

in response to that, since the action was deemed "success", i should have died without any outside interference. so it stands the two possibilities: with the flavor writeup, there is some role out there that can so-called "poison" people so i guess my BG protection was worthless; and as someone suggested the mafia team has a strongman and decided to use on exalt to avoid any further damage after losing their roleblocker.

[Halp]

Interesting take, Halp. I just triple posted and part of it was a direct statement to you and you didn't acknowledge a word of what I said in the slightest.

Your activity might be hurting you here. Don't come off TOO scummy.

Not much to respond to.. You don’t know why we’re both named Hank and you think I’m half useless (which I read as half useful).

I think I’m being as active as sound be expected. I’ve offered my opinions on the people I have reads on, and I’ve roleclaimed. As a VT there's not much else to offer at this point in the game. Nobody else seems too interested in ixt’s bs claim and nobody seems to want to pressure beast to further explain his erratic behavior and roleclaim.

For what it’s worth I don’t think sdrawkab was bussed by his team on D1, just don’t feel like that would have been a smart or necessary play.

imo ixt, beast, hook, kthx, kassius contain the remaining scum. But it’s still early and we still have next to no info.

[Beast]

Edify, and halp on my shitlist. Dont flip scum plx

[Voth]

Not much to respond to.. You don’t know why we’re both named Hank and you think I’m half useless (which I read as half useful).

I think I’m being as active as sound be expected. I’ve offered my opinions on the people I have reads on, and I’ve roleclaimed. As a VT there's not much else to offer at this point in the game. Nobody else seems too interested in ixt’s bs claim and nobody seems to want to pressure beast to further explain his erratic behavior and roleclaim.

For what it’s worth I don’t think sdrawkab was bussed by his team on D1, just don’t feel like that would have been a smart or necessary play.

imo ixt, beast, hook, kthx, kassius contain the remaining scum. But it’s still early and we still have next to no info.

Odd. Normally you just glaze over being called out either via inactivity or pretending it just didn't happen. That was a direct and reasonable response to someone calling you out. Curious.

[Edify]

I guess I'll start working on this now since we're already two pages (I have post count set to 40) into D3.

642 Kthx votes Ixt
648 Voth votes ixt 685 Voth changes to kthx 701 Voth changes to Vehicle
655 ixt votes Edify 667 ixt unvotes Edify 705 ixt votes Vehicle
658 Kassius votes Edify
675 Beast votes Vehicle
677 Vehicle votes the_paul 696 Vehicle changes to ixt
691 Halp votes Beast
711 Edify votes Beast

ixt - 2 (kthx,Veh)
Vehicle - 3 (Voth, ixt, Beast)
Edify - 1 (Kass)
Beast - 2 (Halp, Edi)

No votes from: Hookecho, the_paul

[Halp]

I protected exalt last night. You're welcome.

Not sure trolling is a pro-town move. Lynch all liars is pretty standard fare around here and I think this counts. Not only have you offered nothing useful, but you’re admitting to “trolling” and even had people convinced willby put a jester in the game.

[ixt]

It seems 100% scum perspective if any normal player doesn’t stop to consider all potential possibilities that could have happened night phase. Now, those not voting for me have expressed their doubts which I can take but have discussed various situations. Kthx and vehicle major sus

[Halp]

Odd. Normally you just glaze over being called out either via inactivity or pretending it just didn't happen. That was a direct and reasonable response to someone calling you out. Curious.

I am not the droid you’re looking for

[Vehicle]

I didn't expect someone to show such obvious
scum signs as a result of my tirade so quickly. How did you manage to pull a scum role on both games after returning so far? Jealous to be honest. I'm a VT again.

unvote Kthx
vote vehicle

Tirade? What tirade? You really think highly of yourself. The person who got me to switch my vote off of paul was paul after he reminded me of how everything went down on D1. But it's whatever, I'm used to you voting for me out of jealousy. You gotta work hard for this body Voth, sorry.

Now we have Beast who went from posting like a meth-addled drama queen about his super powerful role to actually typing in complete sentences and saying he's just a plain old townsman. I guess people will say anything to stay alive when their life is on the line, so maybe it's not as sketchy as it seems. But it seems sketchy.

The train on me is now Beast, Voth and ixt. If Beast is actually innocent then I'm starting to think Voth did his last-minute vote switch to backwards hoping the phase would change before someone another Beast voter flopped (Beast was +1 to die when Voth switched meaning he needed someone with their vote on him to move it) and it blew up in his face. Maybe it would of been nice to ride the clout from that one vote all the way to the end of the game, but if any of the three backwards voters are scum, it's likely you.