Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[Voth]

No matter how you cut it, it seems extremely bogus that ixt, bodyguard got a successful protect action on Exalt N2 but the reason Exalt still died was a ninja strongman. Strongman is already a powerful role and to make him a ninja too would be just Willby reaching another level of crazy in hosting.

Ninja Poisoner*

Bodyguards do not protect against Poisoners. Only Poison Doctors do.

[Voth]

This was Paul hammer voting Backwards three minutes after my vote on Backwards. The only possible explanation to on I can see is if Paul was hoping someone would tie it up so that if he was losing his teammate, at least they take out a townie too with him.

Lets examine Willbys vote count after we all flipped to Backwards:

Vote tally:
Beast-2 (vehicle,edify)
exalt-2 (jessup, sdrawkcab)
bioture-1 (beast)
jessup-1 (kassius)
ixt-1 (halp)
sdrawkcab-3 (exalt, the_paul, voth)

Dirty unvoters: ixt, hookecho
afkers: Missa, Bioture

10 minutes til vote lock
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Paul had his vote on a Beast, a townie, before switching to Backwards. If he just shut up and didn't do anything, Beast would have led the vote lead with 3 instead of Backwards.

Mind you, this was all very last minute and I wasn't even sure we had time to switch our votes and go for Backwards, so it's hard to believe Paul would switch his vote off to prevent a town lynch and hammer his role blocker at the last minute. No plan for a double lynch including his teammate makes any sense. Could have tried to lynch two townies, but a townie and a scum mate? Why? WHY?

The only possibility I see is something crazy like Backwards had an IRL issue and they decided to pull a crazy move that might win them the game down the line, like now. If that's the case, I tip my hat.

My vote stays.

Edify if you think a ninja poisoner is more implausible than everything I said in this post, I don't know what to say.

[Edify]

Edify if you think a ninja poisoner is more implausible than everything I said in this post, I don't know what to say.

It was just an observation. And I said strongman, feller, which I do think would be an OP role.

I can't help but wonder what kind of reaming I will get at end of game if it turns out Voth and TP both bussed Sdrawkcab together D1! Hahaha! Not one but two clutch players.

[kthx]

Voth assuming you are town as nd not mafia then I have a suggestion.

Vote for TP and double lynch me and him. I will pop town and he will pop mafia but that will give town one more phase instead of ending the game with town losing right now. Theres basically no reason not to do this as its game over if you lynch one or two townies at this point.

[Voth]

It was just an observation. And I said strongman, feller, which I do think would be an OP role.

I can't help but wonder what kind of reaming I will get at end of game if it turns out Voth and TP both bussed Sdrawkcab together D1! Hahaha! Not one but two clutch players.

Right you said strongman, but he clearly died from poison while other NKs except Vehicle have been bullet wounds.

[Voth]

Voth assuming you are town as nd not mafia then I have a suggestion.

Vote for TP and double lynch me and him. I will pop town and he will pop mafia but that will give town one more phase instead of ending the game with town losing right now. Theres basically no reason not to do this as its game over if you lynch one or two townies at this point.

Nice try, and the math works, but all this is doing is trying to drag me into a situation where I change my vote changes their vote to tie it up and we are putting all of our faith that your scum buddy won't change his vote last second to just lynch TP. It's game over for town if you do that so it doesn't matter that they are outing themselves. Your scum buddy isn't necessarily Halp - it could be Edify or Hookecho, who could then switch off you at the last minute and fuck it all up. Then we lose.

Nah, I'm more confident that you're scum.

[kthx]

Either you are mafia or you are fucking retarded. Your going to blow this fucking game for town. And I am even giving you another fucking solution to not blow it and you are afraid of taking it.

[kthx]

Again why the fuck would I claim "helmsman" and not captain, why would I tell my role when it's obvious mafia could subvert it to make me look guilty. Stop being a fucking dingledoink

[Voth]

Again why the fuck would I claim "helmsman" and not captain, why would I tell my role when it's obvious mafia could subvert it to make me look guilty. Stop being a fucking dingledoink

What does this have to do with anything? Helmsmen of ships just steer if I'm not mistaken, it's not the same as a Captain. And what does that even prove?

[Voth]

This was Paul hammer voting Backwards three minutes after my vote on Backwards. The only possible explanation to on I can see is if Paul was hoping someone would tie it up so that if he was losing his teammate, at least they take out a townie too with him.

Lets examine Willbys vote count after we all flipped to Backwards:

Vote tally:
Beast-2 (vehicle,edify)
exalt-2 (jessup, sdrawkcab)
bioture-1 (beast)
jessup-1 (kassius)
ixt-1 (halp)
sdrawkcab-3 (exalt, the_paul, voth)

Dirty unvoters: ixt, hookecho
afkers: Missa, Bioture

10 minutes til vote lock
-----
Paul had his vote on a Beast, a townie, before switching to Backwards. If he just shut up and didn't do anything, Beast would have led the vote lead with 3 instead of Backwards.

Mind you, this was all very last minute and I wasn't even sure we had time to switch our votes and go for Backwards, so it's hard to believe Paul would switch his vote off to prevent a town lynch and hammer his role blocker at the last minute. No plan for a double lynch including his teammate makes any sense. Could have tried to lynch two townies, but a townie and a scum mate? Why? WHY?

The only possibility I see is something crazy like Backwards had an IRL issue and they decided to pull a crazy move that might win them the game down the line, like now. If that's the case, I tip my hat.

My vote stays.

This is what is compelling me to stay on you. Like I said, if Paul played this like a fiddle, I'll concede I fucked it up and lost the game for town. I can't see how it's even possible frankly.

[kthx]

Because I know jack shit about ships, I thought the captain fucking steered them rofl. That is not the role I would have made up.

[kthx]

Whatever I'm done trying to convince you but you are fucking up, I gave you an option to not to embarrass yourself and other people changing their votes to get off a tie would prove my innocence anyways. You said yourself Hookecho, TP, and Edify seemed scummy all game and those are the three other than you voting for me.

[Voth]

Whatever I'm done trying to convince you but you are fucking up, I gave you an option to not to embarrass yourself and other people changing their votes to get off a tie would prove my innocence anyways. You said yourself Hookecho, TP, and Edify seemed scummy all game and those are the three other than you voting for me.

You all seem scummy this game is insanity.

[Voth]

Whatever I'm done trying to convince you but you are fucking up, I gave you an option to not to embarrass yourself and other people changing their votes to get off a tie would prove my innocence anyways. You said yourself Hookecho, TP, and Edify seemed scummy all game and those are the three other than you voting for me.

You all seem scummy this game is insanity.

[Halp]

So you’re banking on the fact that willby made a hybrid poisoner role that kills instantly but can’t be protected against, and is also a ninja? And just rolling the dice that if it’s not paul it must be kthx? This seems like not great decision making.