Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[Jessup]

To all the people voting on vehicle, I have a few questions.
1) why? If you dont believe his roleclaim, why dont you believe it?
2) what is our next step forward if vehicle is town? If vehicle is mafia?

The fact he pulled kass who just claimed and me (very townie out of every1) name out as the 2 who came to him seemed very suspicious and convenient. I'm not sure if this claim of vehicles would apply to this set up properly too. I certainly am worried though. I basically didn't trust the math/probability both kass and my name came up in that result too lol .

[kthx]

The reason I want to lynch Vehicle is because I think it will prove a third party group given his roleclaim. My action is related to third party.

[Beast]

Wow... town cant be this dumb, jessup,kass unvote vehicle this instant.

[Beast]

A man wouldnt lie 99% of the time about conference calls

Vote kassius

[Jessup]

It's because kassius echoed some of jessups positions. Go look at any game jess is in, she votes for the people who vote her, and trust the people who agree with her. Same reason she was railing against me so hard earlier, but has more or less dropped it.
kassius is a better lynch than vehicle. Not saying jts the right lynch, just that its a better lynch

I do feel kass needs to get off partyfalcon and vote with us to be trusted. If he plays solo vote game and doesn't go along with town majority im gonna be pissed.

[Jessup]

A man wouldnt lie 99% of the time about conference calls

Vote kassius

wtf gtfo off kass if u want me to get off vehicle

[kthx]

Kass could be GF also I was thinking. Especially if we find another third party

[the_paul]

I trust Willby's judgement, but something seems off about the claim. If there were people pushing to lynch Voth on policy of the bus driver being a chaotic role, this role would also certainly qualify. It seems off, the first 2 names given certainly seem off, and it's going to sow absolute chaos and overshadow other names during the day phase I feel like.

If there is someone better, let me know. I'm not sure Kassius actually qualifies, but I can see that argument. I find it unlikely that our investigative roles are a psychic and a watcher in a game with nothing but power roles and apparently a 3rd party according to some people? I'm open to suggestions honestly.

The redeeming quality of his claim is that A) it's super obscure, and B) no one else has counter claimed a more traditional investigative role. That may be because they are worried they'd die if they do so. My role is not investigative at all, I will add that much.

[PartyFalcon]

I actually want to take this opportunity to figure out people are getting the Princess Bride references. Because iocane went right over peoples heads last game.

Sorry still catching up from today but just wanna give ya a lil WIFOM / iocane powder / princess bride shoutout; I’m getting your princess bride references.

[the_paul]

Kass could be GF also I was thinking. Especially if we find another third party

This crossed my mind too with the bulletproof claim. Although if you're hinting at your role having to do with 3rd parties, I'm not sure which is more likely.

[Jessup]

The reason I want to lynch Vehicle is because I think it will prove a third party group given his roleclaim. My action is related to third party.

So KThx you are telling us we have a 3rd party for sure because your role is exclusively for them? I'm confused.

[Vehicle]

My role doesn't have to sow chaos it just could. Look at today. If kassius is survivor, I asked ixt if neutral is good or evil and he said neither so we were able to confirm Jessup. I got my two names last night, Kassius obviously claimed during the day. Ixt had no way of knowing he was going to.

Since when was Jessup confirmed town before this? People were voting for him last phase? Like why is it that convenient? It's only convenient because now you have the information from me.

If paul's vote on backwards clears him then we have literally 3 names to choose from on my train. I gave us a god damn map and I'm being voted for because of it.

Me: Here's helpful information.
Town: Die scum.

[Vehicle]

Maybe not a map, but I'm fucking helping. Now I have to go bd. I'll be back to defend myself.

[kthx]

So KThx you are telling us we have a 3rd party for sure because your role is exclusively for them? I'm confused.

I'm not sure, my role "activated" last night

[the_paul]

The fact that Jessup and Kassius have spent the entire game cozying up to each other, only to have Jessup "confirmed" as town immediately... the odds have to be pretty steep. Need our mathlete Exalt here. I'll admit I don't love this train, I'm much less sure of this than I was of Backwards, which usually ends poorly. I could be getting the wool pulled over my eyes, but my gut feeling about Willby is good, and we were together on the Backwards wagon, so I'll admit I'm looking at what he's thinking and doing as a sounding board for where I'm at. I don't love the Kassius wagon either, but I guess the plus side of that lynch would be, worst case scenario, it strengthens Vehicle's claim credibility without killing him. Damn, I'm honestly torn here. I can't decide on Vehicle. The role is so off the wall and is really going to fuck this game up, but is it off the wall enough that he couldn't even fake claim something like that? That's what I'm trying to weigh here