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    Warning: The following post is annoying, preachy, and not necessarily directed toward you. The word irony is bastardized at least twice a day, though, so it's definately meant for some of the forum users. I'm not smart enough to rant about the word irony, since it is a tricky definition, but I'll use someone else's words toward that aim:

    Dave Eggers, in Mistakes We Knew We Were Making:

    [Irony] is beyond a doubt the most overused and under-understood word we currently have. Let's define irony as the dictionary does: the use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning. (There are lesser definitions, but they all serve this main one.) When someone kids around, it does not necessarily mean he or she is being ironic. That is, when someone tells a joke, in any context, it can mean, simply, that a joke is being told. Jokes, thus, do not have to be ironic to be jokes. Further, satire is not inherently ironic. Nor is parody. Or any kind of comedy. Irony is a very specific and not all that interesting thing, and to use the word/concept to blanket half of all contemporary cultural production -- which some aged arbiters seem to be doing (particularly with regard to work made by those under a certain age) -- is akin to the too-common citing of "the Midwest" as the regional impediment to all national social progress (when we all know the "Midwest" is ten miles outside of any city). In other words, irony should be considered a very particular and recognizable thing, as defined above, and thus, to refer to everything odd, coincidental, absurd, or strangely funny as ironic is, frankly, an abomination upon the Lord. [Re that last clause: not irony, but a simple, wholesome, American-born exaggeration]. To illustrate the many more things that are not ironic, but are often referred to as such, let's look at some sample sentences, starring a wee wayward pup known as Benji, and see if we can illuminate some distinctions.

    Sample: Benji was run over by a bus. Isn't that ironic?
    No: That is not ironic. That is unfortunate, but it is not ironic.

    Sample: It was a bright and sunny day when Benji was run over by a bus. Ironic, no?
    Again, no: That is not irony. It is an instance of dissonance between the weather and tragedy.

    Sample: It is ironic that Benji was on his way to the vet when he was run over by a bus.
    Still: That is not irony. That is a coincidence that might be called eerie.

    Sample: It is ironic that Benji was run over on the same day he misused the word ironic.
    But see: This is, again, a coincidence. It is wonderfully appropriate that he was run over on this day, deserving as he was of punishment, but it is not ironic.

    Sample: Is it not ironic that on the side of the bus that ran over benji was an advertisement for "The Late Show with David Letterman," a show which many consider often ironic?
    Oh, oh: No. No.
    There are several different kinds of irony, outside of the conventional definition (dramatic irony, situational irony), but none of those variations are related to the use of the word on these forums. The common appearance of the word "irony" on these forums is more akin to the musical stylings of Alanis Morissette, and equally inappropriate. So go forth with caution, and if you're using the word "irony" for anything you find funny or creepy, please stop. You're pissing off the picky, anal shitheads who read these boards.

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    Thanks for the warning. Saved me time, might have started reading....
    You ate some priest porridge

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    • #3
      That was a pretty good book, aside from the part where he was being interviewed by the Real World for like 30 pages. That got old really fast.

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      • #4
        My English teacher once told us the real way to use Irony. SHe was kinda hot, what the hell do you have to offer?

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        • #5
          Alot of people have difficulties telling the difference between sarcasm and irony.
          Jesus Christ on a pogo stick

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bilbo
            Alot of people have difficulties telling the difference between sarcasm and [/B]irony. [/B]
            americans?

            -ARSE

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            • #7
              I heard that it was the Americans, not the Jews or Romans, that killed Jesus. HOW IRONIC!

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              • #8
                Re: Irony

                Now explain sarcasm.

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                • #9
                  Yeah... I'll do that right away.
                  Mr 12 inch wonder

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                  • #10
                    It's like rain on your wedding day.
                    It's the free ride when you've already paid.
                    It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
                    And who would've thought, it figures.
                    jasonofabitch loves!!!!

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                    • #11
                      uhh.. that looks really long
                      Originally posted by Yoshiba
                      i lag when i smoke weed

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                      • #12
                        rofl jason.
                        $|_@Q\_/|=

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Verthanthi
                          Now explain sarcasm.
                          Sarcasm is a biting, often ironic comment that is intended to ridicule a person. It is not always ironic, but in most cases sarcasm falls under that heading. That does not mean it is very accurate to call a sarcastic remark "ironic," though. Here's an analogy:

                          Your friend is running from the police. Another person asks you where your friend is. You say he is outside "jogging."

                          You wouldn't be lying in the above case. The friend in question really is outside running. You would be skipping the importance of the whole situation, though... the context. To call a sarcastic remark "ironic" is similarly misleading. You would be skipping the context of the situation and missing the mark accordingly.

                          Irony is a general definition that does not imply intention. In that sense, it's a pretty boring, not often appropriate term. For example, telling an actor or actress to "break a leg" before they go on stage is ironic. On the surface, you wish them harm, but the true meaning of the comment is "good luck."

                          I hope this confused you entirely.

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                          • #14
                            Who are you?

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