Research 9/11

[Tone]

Sure. which is why people who were 'not on' those remote control planes are now mysteriously missing. Because the planes were remote controlled, those people's flights would have landed and took off normally. And we would have those people alive today.

Unless they got sucked into the bermuda triangle.

well you know, when i post things about some of the 19 hijackers confirmed alive from sources such as BBC news, you all talk about no evidence, wild conspiracy sites, unconfirmed sources and other buzz words. im just going to have to ask you about what your evidence is of these supposed missing people and tell you that your sources are crap and then you showed none anyway and that there is no credibility here

[Kolar]

All of the information you've offered here is circumstantial at best meaning you're using losely gathered peices of information that has nothing directly to do with the actual attack, yes I will admit there's some inconsistencies with the hijackers but how does that show there was any kind of help from the Bush Admin? Do you know the confusion that happened after the attacks or difuculty in tracking these people? would it make sense that not only some of the hijackers had seats on the planes yet didn't go though with it? After all what do they have to go on besides the records at the airports?


We've linked to sites not only extensively explain and sourcing reasonable and logical explainations, MIT and the explination for the failing of the steel has been confirmed by so many people and makes sense if you would get your conversions worked out. You've failed to show any direct connections between the 911 attacks and the Bush Admin. All you have to offer is "who gains this from that" or "look, another moron wants to act like an engineer". We're not the ones posting conspiracy sites, all this 911thrust.bullshit or trust.org.gov.on.ca.morebullet is tiring to look at, they're not intrested in the facts of the case of using honest and scientific methods.

I'm not asking you to believe in something, respect that fact that I can believe in what I believed happened and I can leave you to your tinfoil hats but at least have respect for the methods and for the truth, keep an open mind and don't let hatred cloud your judgment.

[Arikel]

planes have been remote control for 40 years, the CIA drones are remote controlled

Hey can you arrange me a meeting with Mulder!? He is hot! :blushing:

[Theif of Time]

All I'm saying is that if there were people who were supposedly dead, that is, according to airport records they were on the hijacked planes, wouldn't you have thought that if they were alive (and that plane had never been hijacked) they would have spoken up by now? The same with the pilots of the hijacked planes... as far as I know they are dead, and if they are not, then where are they?

[Ewan]

Two can play at this game...
One thing, please read these two links before continuing your argument I believe they may help you with some of your misunderstandings.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...tml?page=1&c=y

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[Liquid Blue]

Page 6!

Conc wins the thread.

[Vykromond]

tldr

[Squeezer]

Oh and btw Tone,

You have still yet to adress the issue of the black box found on the plane, which was tested and confirmed as the voice of a man on the plane, which describes the plane being taken over by arab men, then retaken by the passengers, until it finally crashed in the middle of rural pennsylvania.

All you were able to say is that they found some guy who wasn't on the plane's personal check.

Hooray!

[Tone]

Oh and btw Tone,

You have still yet to adress the issue of the black box found on the plane, which was tested and confirmed as the voice of a man on the plane, which describes the plane being taken over by arab men, then retaken by the passengers, until it finally crashed in the middle of rural pennsylvania.

All you were able to say is that they found some guy who wasn't on the plane's personal check.

Hooray!

it was a made up story, thats how, have you seen the black box in person and confirmed somehow it is the black box? just, simply, made up.

but you cannot make up the collapse of the towers, everyone saw it.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...2755-6408r.htm

Washington, DC, Jun. 13 (UPI) -- Insider notes from United Press International for June 8

A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings."

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Two years after President George W. Bush proclaimed "mission accomplished" in Iraq, some thoughtful officers are beginning to question who the insurgents actually are. In a recent interview the head of the US 42nd Infantry Division which covers key trouble spots, including Baquba and Samarra Major General Joseph Taluto said he could understand why some ordinary Iraqis would take up arms against U.S. forces because "they're offended by our presence." Taluto added, "If a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could (want to fight us). There is a sense of a good resistance, or an accepted resistance. They say 'okay, if you shoot a coalition soldier, that's okay, it's not a bad thing but you shouldn't kill other Iraqis.'" Taluto insisted however that the other foreign forces would not be driven out of Iraq by violence, observing, "If the goal is to have the coalition leave, attacking them isn't the way," he said. "The way to make it happen is to enter the political process cooperate and the coalition will be less aggressive and less visible and eventually it'll go away." Taluto's comments are sure to raise hackles at the Pentagon, which insist that all insurgents are either Baathists or al-Qaida. Taluto observed that "99.9 per cent" of those captured fighting the U.S. were Iraqis.

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Ah well, there's always Argentina. The German government is reportedly blocking the deportation of Nazi war crimes suspects from the U.S. back to Germany to be tried and punished. The German interior ministry has refused to accept the suspects even though the United States already has stripped them of their citizenship because of their World War II history and has asked Germany to accept them; German officials worry the suspects might join neo-Nazi groups. Deputy director of the Office of Special Investigations at the Department of Justice Jonathan Drimmer said, "By and large we're talking about concentration camp guards, we're talking about collaborators, people who were involved in indigenous police forces, that kind of thing." German interior ministry officials said that Washington had not given Berlin enough proof that the suspects were war criminals, despite repeated requests from Germany. Deportation in U.S. court cases requires not criminal, but just civil, proceedings, with a burden of proof of "clear, convincing, and unequivocal evidence." German Interior ministry officials noted that if Germany accepted the deportees, they would be supported by the German social system and possibly would involve themselves in the extreme right or anti-Semitic political activities.

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The first conflict that the newly independent United States engaged in began in 1801 with the Barbary States; now descendents of those corsairs have participated in naval exercises with their former enemies. On June 7 Algerian and U.S. Coast Guard warships conducted a joint naval exercise, improving interoperability and developing cooperation in securing the western Mediterranean. The vessels conducted maritime patrol missions, testing their joint capabilities to monitor and board suspicious vehicles and interdict illegal migration. U.S. Coast Guard Capt. Robert Wyner said Washington regards Algeria as a strategic partner in the war against terrorism and that Algeria would play a major role in U.S. efforts to bolster the stability of North Africa and counter the threat of al-Qaida. Interestingly enough, former counterterrorism adviser Richard A. Clarke closed Boston harbor on 9-11 because of concerns that al-Qaida terrorists were stowaways aboard liquefied natural gas tankers from Algeria bound for Boston's Everett LNG facility.

[Kolar]

Flight 93 had contact with air traffic controllers, the only thing picked up by air traffic and confirmed by other planes in the area was an Arabic voice saying they had a bomb onboard and some sounds of fighting.

[Squeezer]

it was a made up story, thats how, have you seen the black box in person and confirmed somehow it is the black box? just, simply, made up.

but you cannot make up the collapse of the towers, everyone saw it.

Yes, I heard the fucking voice on CNN of the guy saying shit like "Tell my wife I love her." and "We're gonna try to land this thing."

There is fucking proof, you're just so damn obsessed with finding something that isn't there, that you look past cold hard facts.

[Sarien]

I've been waiting for this...

I've been waiting for your arrogant ass to step neck deep in your own bullshit, and I finally get to see it.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408r.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Times

The Unification Church. You know, ran by Sun Myung Moon?
The Moonies? This is your credible reporting and evidence?

Not good enough for you, super genius?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Press_International

Moonies own that too! Yay for the cult! See what actual investigation turns up? See how you're not a cut above anybody? Suck it, Suck it long and hard, freak.

[Tone]

I've been waiting for your arrogant ass to step neck deep in your own bullshit, and I finally get to see it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Times

The Unification Church. You know, ran by Sun Myung Moon?
The Moonies? This is your credible reporting and evidence?

Not good enough for you, super genius?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Press_International

Moonies own that too! Yay for the cult! See what actual investigation turns up? See how you're not a cut above anybody? Suck it, Suck it long and hard, freak.

hey dumb asshole

i am aware that moon owns the times and know who he is

the story was accurate, i heard morgan reynolds live on the radio, and he was also on alex jone's program as well

so.. what the news story says about what reynolds said, is true. moon did not say "lets make up a story about morgan reynolds and make up things he said". the article gives a summery that is right in line with what i heard reynolds say Himeslef on the radio

so moon owning the times has to do with????.... what now????

[PH]

Wow, you sure went on the defensive in a hurry after your sources got exposed as a bunch of tinfoil-hatted crackpots.

[Tone]

Wow, you sure went on the defensive in a hurry after your sources got exposed as a bunch of tinfoil-hatted crackpots.

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....the article above was about Reynolds' views on 9/11....


....Reynolds was on the radio thursday night....


....Reynolds himself said on the radio everything that the above article said that he said....


....on the radio, himself, with his voice, coast to coast, one million listeners


?buy logic

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