ATTN: Mac users

[Blanke]

Soo...I'm not sure as to what to do, nice.

[Sarien]

Thought it was simple and straightforward. Wait until after Macworld Expo to decide.

[Unorthadox]

LOL im on a mac right now, and yes, no right click

[Sarien]

Either you are lying, haven't even tried to plug a 2 button usb mouse in, or you're using a seriously ass old version of the OS. And I mean ass old as in from the 90's at least.

[geekbot]

iBooks are not as expensive. Powerbooks have the better processors, etc. and get the latest features- touchpad scrolling, auto dimming screen/lighted keyboard, auto parking Hard Drive if you drop it. iMacs recently got built-in iSight webcam and Front Row- if those things are going to the laptops, the Powerbook is likely to get it first.

The biggest factor in my choosing iBook vs Powerbook was the screen res. iBooks are 1024x786 and I was planning on using my laptop for coding and expecting to use a lot of screen real estate. I got a 15" Powerbook (widescreen) and I do like the extra space. Since getting a Mac, I also use Desktop Manager (http://desktopmanager.berlios.de/) to triple my desktop space (you can have as many desktops as you want).

Watch what happens at the Expo. Here's a guide if you care about the timing of buying something http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/. But the truth is, new stuff is coming out all the time. If you wait for the iPod Shuffle, the Nano will come out. If you wait for the Nano, the iPod Video will come out. Of course if there's something *really* big, you might want to wait. Then again if you wait for the newest hardware something, that brand new something might not have all the kinks worked out so you might want to wait for the 2nd generation. In other words, it's never-ending. Best to just get what you need, when you need it.

Once the new stuff comes out watch http://arstechnica.com/index.ars and http://www.macworld.com/ for reviews.

[BleakFuture]

I did. I had to upload that picture, after all. Same as I've uploaded every other picture/photoshop I've ever posted from my webspace. Using ftp from the terminal.

You're doing it wrong/were trained wrong.

The way I do it is, open a terminal, change to the folder I want to send the file, ftp, open, <address>, log in, change to the folder where I want the file to be or where the file I need to send is, and type send <filename>. Or if I want to get a file from the remote connection? get <filename>. Then you just type "bye", and end it.

I'd try and explain that to a mac user, but I'd fuck it up. We "support" mac's here, but unfortunately, we don't get into them to heavy.
If a mac caller calls in, its usually because somethings is wrong with their internet or their settings, and their settings are pretty easy to fix.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

The biggest factor in my choosing iBook vs Powerbook was the screen res. iBooks are 1024x786 and I was planning on using my laptop for coding and expecting to use a lot of screen real estate. I got a 15" Powerbook (widescreen) and I do like the extra space. Since getting a Mac, I also use Desktop Manager (http://desktopmanager.berlios.de/) to triple my desktop space (you can have as many desktops as you want).

Watch what happens at the Expo. Here's a guide if you care about the timing of buying something http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/. But the truth is, new stuff is coming out all the time. If you wait for the iPod Shuffle, the Nano will come out. If you wait for the Nano, the iPod Video will come out. Of course if there's something *really* big, you might want to wait. Then again if you wait for the newest hardware something, that brand new something might not have all the kinks worked out so you might want to wait for the 2nd generation. In other words, it's never-ending. Best to just get what you need, when you need it.

And remember to pay 150% of what you should pay for last years hardware--it's the Apple way!
Just kidding geekbot/sarien.

[Richard Creager]

The eMacs or whatever those all white slightly bigger os x standard ones are called at my school never supported right click on the rare occasion a logitech one was plugged into the one you're at instead of the stupid one button default. It's not just os 90's sarien, why do you think so many people would be complaining about it if it worked for them?
Sure they're running an old/not finely configurd OS, this is what 90% of them ARE on not the 9.99% you and the other knowledged mac users are running. They're going to run into it whether or not it works perfectly on yours.

[DoTheFandango]

I think you guys need a new eMac then. All of the ones at our school support 2-button mouses, because we used left over Dell ones.

[Sarien]

Multiple mouse button support was written into OS X, from the very first version. OS 9 didn't come with it as default, but there is an input sprocket you could get to use it.

Rich, I'm not gonna doubt your experiences or anything as dumb as that, it sounds like (depending on how old they are) they might have been running OS 9. If they're running X it would take some severe work for a USB multi button mouse, to not work. The only app on Macs I've known in the past several years to not like 2 button mice is oddly enough MS Internet Explorer for Mac.

The thing is, most of the people I've heard complain about the whole "2 button mice" thing, aren't people who are frustrated or can't get it to work. If it were that I'd readily volunteer to help them with their Mac to the best of my ability. (Ask DTF). It's more teenage Windows fans with too much cum on the brain that want to say something snarky when they know almost nothing of, and probably have never even tried out OS X. Very rarely anymore is it even anyone actually running OS 9. Running OS 9 as the main OS is more of a difference than running say Windows 98, it's more like running Windows 3.11 compared to XP. I liked it way back when, (when I was begrudgingly forced away from using straight DOS), but it has got nothing compared to X.

Edit: And if any people here thought IE for Windows was no good? You could not even begin to imagine what IE for Mac is like. It's like someone tried to eat all the requirements for making a web browser and then shit out a finished product. I'm glad with 10.4 Apple finally stopped giving it with the OS. That and fucking Stuffit Expander.

[Richard Creager]

Yea they even forced os x on the poor old imacs they had. THOSE were fun to have to us. I ended up trying to get them to ban me by changing the zoom and leaving the machines in fucked up color configurations, because thats all they were good for. That and dicking around in bash. They didn't give me the hammer though, soon after I left the school. True Story.

[geekbot]

Just kidding geekbot/sarien.[/COLOR]

I hate you