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  • #31
    Comparing the PQ to Ralph Nader couldn't be more wrong. The PQ is very strong in Quebec..

    The PQ has governed VERY WELL in the past, and an independent Quebec would probably be just as successful as it is now. They would probably just adopt NAFTA (or stay in it, how this would work legally I have no idea). The USA and Canada would only be too eager to have them join. They want more people in it, not less. Maybe Quebec could even get a better deal.

    I personally think that French culture and language are protected well enough in Canada and that Quebec is well off economically in Canada in addition to that. I don't agree with trying to discredit a movement which does represent Quebec people very. We need to do an even better job of making a place for Quebec within a Canada they are comfortable with.

    Canada would lose a lot without Quebec. They would probably lose too. But I don't honestly think Quebec isn't capable of nationhood. It's a question of what we all want. Of course we'd be better off together.

    If Quebec were to become independent a very interesting split would occur in Quebec society and Quebecs politics. The PQ was traditionally very leftist. That's how they won such strong support from the people. Now that a strong French business community exists they lobby for a more right wing approach to governing. A showdown between those two forces after their final goal of independence is achieved would probably carry a pretty high political cost. Would be neat!

    If the PQ capitalised on the negative feelings of Gomery and won a referendum with 53-55% support it's very possible support would decline below 50. Then what? Another referendum? I could see it happening.

    Quebec had 2 referendums already. They were close, I'll grant you that, but the high support today for soverignty has alot to do with scandle. That won't last forever. I think after that support for seperatism has no reason not to decline back to where it traditionally has stood, which, thankfully for Canada, is something less than 50%.
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    • #32
      1)We are getting assimilated because we cant do laws to protect our language/culture because it would be considered illegal, being against the liberty laws. We nearly had our law 101 removed which obligates companies to write in french and english. So yes it is true froedrick and spider it is in danger.

      2)We have a really DIFFERENT way of seeing how politically a country should be (AKA mentality). Half of my family is from Saskatchewan and Ontario so Im in a pretty good way to evaluate this.

      3)If Canada would allow us to make it possible to make these 2 problems disappear then yes I would vote NDP but no federal parties are doing so.

      I am neutral tho so dont think Im a biased nationalist.

      Good points you bring Kolar but I dont think we would be a poor country. Really hard to predict in my opinion.
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      • #33
        Oh jeez. PQ must be like the fucking Green Party then.
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        • #34
          We already have a green party you probably never hear of them, because they're too poor advertise themselves. The PQ was originally created by former progressive conservatives, and liberals so I don't know what party they're like.
          Last edited by Krusnik; 12-25-2005, 10:27 PM.

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          • #35
            We are let's say between NDP and Liberals...
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            • #36
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Melo
                1)We are getting assimilated because we cant do laws to protect our language/culture because it would be considered illegal, being against the liberty laws. We nearly had our law 101 removed which obligates companies to write in french and english. So yes it is true froedrick and spider it is in danger.

                2)We have a really DIFFERENT way of seeing how politically a country should be (AKA mentality). Half of my family is from Saskatchewan and Ontario so Im in a pretty good way to evaluate this.

                3)If Canada would allow us to make it possible to make these 2 problems disappear then yes I would vote NDP but no federal parties are doing so.

                I am neutral tho so dont think Im a biased nationalist.

                Good points you bring Kolar but I dont think we would be a poor country. Really hard to predict in my opinion.
                lol ya cuz forcing EVERY FUCKING THING in quebec to be written TWICE as large in french as in english is clearly the best way of promoting the french language. I'm sure it won't alienate half the population living in Montreal or anything.

                the only province that isn't a cockmunching single-minded unilingual hypocrit is New Brunswick. I've lived in Quebec, where they changed my ENGLISH schools into french curriculums for the first 13 years of my life, then I moved to New Brunswick where I had the CHOICE of going to a french school or an english school. Then I moved to Ontario where it's so english and unilingual it's sad.

                It's funny how a Country of 35 million that prides itself on diversity and bilingualism is only truly represented in a province of like 600,000.

                conservatives are the english, ultra-right wing morons and bloc are the french, separatist morons. liberals and NDP are the only 2 real choices.

                i live in the U.S. now, so I'm not up to date on shit, would be nice to know who to vote for between Libs and NDP
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                • #38
                  Thats because we are fuking different nation maybe??? New Brunswick is mainly people from England if you check there family names little guy. We are not unilingual... Did you read carefully what I said.... TO PROTECT FRENCH YOU IDIOT! NOT ONLY FRENCH ONLY FRENCH. AND IMMIGRANTS LIKE YOU SHOULD GO TO FRENCH SCHOOL BECAUSE THATS THE MAIN LANGUAGE OF OUR NATION... got it?
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                  • #39
                    Dude, France SUCKS.
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                    • #40
                      Quebec is not France... Is USA = England? I DONT THINK SO
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                      • #41
                        Quebec is a part of canada not a nation.
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                        • #42
                          According to the rest of Canada.
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                          • #43
                            You have a culture you are not a nation in your own right. Not all newfoundlander voted to join confederation, yet we don't contest to not being Canadian, even though we are the ass end of every joke. newfoundland has become bilingual because of you. Christ I went through French Immersion myself. Don't say that Canada is making you lose your language when the rest of the country is picking it up. Requirement of an RCMP officer is to be bilingual, same with the Prime minister.
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                            • #44
                              I think the rest of Canada should hold a referendum:

                              Do you wish to get rid of Quebec from the rest of Canada and thus stop giving them billions of dollars in transfer payments every year, stop having to waste time and money making the rest of the country bilingual, and stop having to be annoyed by separatism? Oh and since northern Quebec (where all the hydroelectic power is) was really part of the NorthWest territories but was given to Quebec to take care of later, don't give that to them either because the natives there certainly don't want to leave Canada.
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