Hmmm - Izor's thread

[Rudy]

If anthropologists can't work the whole "race" issue out, I doubt a spaceship game forum will give a definitive solution.

Moderators are instructed to comment any racism bans with the offending article so they can be reviewed, and their durations adjusted depending on the degree of the offence and any repetitions from the same individual. While the thin line that defines what is racially offensive is often obscure, a good proportion of TW racism bans are open and shut cases. This was not the case here.

Izor> this is what happens when you have mexicans in charge of TWL
Izor> I think PL would mow my 2 acre lawn before he makes a decision here

Now if each line were taken seperately of the other, neither would have been construed as racist. In combination it does nothing bar invoke a stereotype that Mexicans are landscapers. That may or may not be true, who cares?

For the purposes of the arguement though, I'm not going say that Mexicans are a race otherwise it causes precendence and opens the floodgates on "racism" towards Americans. Izor is a cunt, there's no denying that. But if he's going to be banned for badmouthing a country, then we're just committing social suicide on the zone. I'd rather ban cheaters, not potty mouthes.
Fin.

[Izor]

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[Sarien]

Thanks though for clearing it up that that policy is only there as an excuse to ban people, and not protect people from racism. If the people who made it cared a damn about protecting against discrimination, this would be equally enforced regardless of which stereotype is on the receiving end

It's about half pointless if you're just going to twist words like a true troll.
Everybody else: Of course it doesn't exist as an excuse to ban people. I simply said that it's a discretionary power, used to enforce the rule.


Done now. Don't use racism.

[Izor]

Done now. Don't use racism.

I will continue not to use racism as I did from the start, since people with even a reasonable amount of sense can see the stupidity of banning people for making fun of mexicans, while americans are stereotyped every day.

Got that, b3aner? Good, cause I didnt want to confuse you more than I already have

EDIT: why is that word blocked? it is not racially oriented

[Hakaku]

I completely second Rudy on that.

Let's forget about racism's definition for now. If you really have to question whether or not something like this is offensive to someone, maybe you should consider consulting those people before? And at least consult someone who speaks spanish and knows more about the hispanic world than you. ¿Vale?

And if you start enforcing this nationality crap, maybe you should also enforce bad american jokes, or how about let's ban all words related to inhabitants of any area? Sure you have your beef with Izor, but if this were any other player would you act the same towards this?

[Jeenyuss]

mom, what does "kidney" BLANK <ER> mean

[Zerzera]

Forums are an entirely different beast from in-game, but that's another story.

I'm inclined not to do anything about it because I myself am a "yank," and don't really give two shits about the term.

Yes, ingame it's the other way around. Some staffers laugh about this 'mild racism' unless it's directed at them, then they will throw in their power instantly.

[farb]

Nothing to see here! Back off you fucking jewish ******s!

[Vykromond]

I can go through forums, probably just by searching 'fat yank', and show you a bunch of american insults, but staff neither here nor in game does anything about it.

Fun fact: the phrase "fat yank" has been used exactly three times on these forums, and two of those times were... by Izor.

[PrOnEsSim]

I live in britain and it is mostly white. The people that play this game from britain are all white. Few Black people play this game from the looks of gallery. I seriously don't see how people can get offended by racist jokes. I'll understand if you know someone is mexican and you called them a mexican lazy pos, then yes that is racist but on ss now even if you just say something like "shut up you mexican" you can get banned, even if you know the person and staff know the person is not a mexican you get banned, why? Ok so if i call Cape a paky its racist, but some guy called Paky Dude can play? It's quite ironic that when staff knew that i was vys on the name "paky" warned me then told me to change my name, but when i said "ok, but do the same to paky dude, they removed the warning and let m keep it".
ivf

paky dude is paky i know him in real life...i'm paky as well but some dont believe it cause of my username sounds like a japanese person.. -_- give me a break i was 11 when i made that up.

ps: i think i'm going off topic oh well back on topic..

[Izor]

/bumped for me getting banned for the same shit

[Ewan]

Using the name p_l=bean3r.... (with letter not number)


And you moan that you got banned?

Get a life man.




Also you were arguing to me that bean3r is not a racist term? Well maybe the fact that it's censored on these forums proves it to you.

[Izor]

because this forum censors a word means its racist? That or the person who did the censor list is an idiot.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...OVE_TO_WORKner

The overall consensus there is that ****** is a deragotory word for a mexican, not racially geared at all. Sorta like when I call muslims arabs. Or africans ******s - ok thats too far. But you get the point. Recently Slangin Rock said on chat that he got warned for calling someone a dumb german in a derogatory way. Is that really what you want this zone to come to?

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

I'm going to say it one last time.

If you do not like the way things are run, it's okay if you pack up your lunchbox and go.

[D1st0rt]

I was flipping through some channels and Mencia had a segment called "Congratulations! You're a beener!". Apparently Nicole Richie was adopted. She would do well to eat some beans (or anything besides another cock for that matter)