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Originally posted by Superted View PostIf the basic message is kept the same then it doesn't matter how it's expressed so long as it reaches people in an understandable way, tugs' way accomplished this.
Edit: Furthermore, religion is a Serious Thing. It's not something like what flavor of ice cream you like or whatever. Religion generally demands absolute faith and if one of those components is that the unblessed will go to hell, then you can expect that the believer is going to go around converting people with the same zeal that a fireman puts out fires (in fact the believer probably has stronger motivation since hell is thought to be eternal).
Having said all this, I am atheist and think that the absolute faith component of religion is junk, but you have to see that religion takes itself very seriously and that true believers take their religion very seriously as well.
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Originally posted by SarienBoys and girls, believe me.. when you make that guy, go off like that? You know you've gotta have fucked up somewhere.Originally posted by Sarien View Post
id normally comment, but i spent the whole night discussing religion and im all worn out.
aww i cant help it... DEMON POSESSION! LOL!!!, id put more effort in but i really am worn out
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Seriously.. people like 1ight kinda piss me off.. It's all fine you wanna believe in god and in whichever way. But there is no reason to go off at other people to do, say, whatever for what they believe in. I don't go around telling people you should not believe in god. I say believe what you want, how you want. But let other people be and dont force things upon them.
You always have that, Islam, Christianity, whatever.. you have people trying to convince you to believe else you will rot in hell, or only get 10 virgins or whatever, while its quite against (maybe not Islam) your own believe to actually invade peoples privacy and freedom like that. Aren't you supposed to be nice to your fellow people? Forcing your ideas down their throats doesn't constitute as nice in my book.
Disliked is a perfect example of how it should be. He has found jesus, he believes in god.. he does and does not do what he needs for that, but he lets other people be in what they believe in.
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ok one last one
demon possession:
This one time, a guy came up to my buddy J in the middle of a crowd and said, "Please, man, you've gotta help my son. He keeps having these seizures. Sometimes he even falls into our fire. And this one time he fell face forward straight into a puddle. Please help him, he's gonna die because of it."
J said, "You are so lucky i'm here." and the kid was cured right then.
oh and if interested the references for those 5 stories were:
Matthew8:28-34/Mark5:1-20/Luke8:26-39
Acts16:16-24
Luke13:10-17
Matthew12:22-32/Luke11:14-23/Mark3:20-30
Matthew17:14-21/Mark9:14-29/Luke9:37-49
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wait islam is pretty big, it shouldn't be counted as other...
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Originally posted by 1ightYou know the road is harsh as a Christian, its not a easy way, it has never been.
I love it when I get to use that.
Originally posted by 1ightI'm not perfect, never been, never will be. This is who I'm. IF I'm wrong, IF I'm to change, the God only you can change me, so be it so, if I need changing then let God do His work in me. I'm willing, always been.
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Originally posted by SupertedHOLY FUCKING SHIT 1IGHT, HE WAS MAKING A FUCKING JOKE. LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP, SERIOUSLY.f
Boys and girls, believe me.. when you make that guy, go off like that? You know you've gotta have fucked up somewhere.
That's like the pope running up and slapping you and going "What in the hell's wrong with you, you little shit? What the fuck!?"
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Originally posted by Superted View PostIf the basic message is kept the same then it doesn't matter how it's expressed so long as it reaches people in an understandable way, tugs' way accomplished this.
Is your identity as a Christian also to give a bad image to Christians to the people on this forum and scare them away from christianity for good? Because that's what you're accomplishing through your posts. Your bible knowledge is impressive and your ministry methods may have worked wherever you did your service but if that's your aim here, you're using the wrong methods.
It seems to me that he knows enough of the story to be able to have summarised it like that.
Out of all the members on this forum, you're the only one to piss me off (at least recently). And stop pretending you're at some uber level in Christ, we're all at the same level.
You said it yourself, If the basic message is kept the same then it doesn't matter how it's expressed so long as it reaches people in an understandable way. Fil./Phil. 1:12-19
"And I want you to know, dear brothers and sisters,* that everything that has happened to me here has helped to spread the Good News. 13 For everyone here, including all the soldiers in the palace guard, knows that I am in chains because of Christ. 14 And because of my imprisonment, many of the Christians* here have gained confidence and become more bold in telling others about Christ.
15 Some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry. But others preach about Christ with pure motives. 16 They preach because they love me, for they know the Lord brought me here to defend the Good News. 17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. 18 But whether or not their motives are pure, the fact remains that the message about Christ is being preached, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. 19 For I know that as you pray for me and as the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will all turn out for my deliverance."
I don't know, if it seems to you, that I'm harsh? Then I must excause myself. But my motives are clear, my heart is clear, I wish that everyone as our Father, that everyone should come to know Jesus Christ.
I'm no uber Christian, but perhaps grown more spiritually. There are certain reasons why people that have come to Christ is not put in leading possions. It takes time before a person changes is Christ. When he gets used to it, when his flesh dies as he is reborn with Christ.
I don't know about my methods and who are you to say they don't work? Perhaps you know what goes inside of each and everyone's heart as they read? What about the bystanders, those who just come and visit the forums for like 1 time in their life? What if it is a enlightning moment for them? I want to shake people.
I'm not perfect, never been, never will be. This is who I'm. IF I'm wrong, IF I'm to change, the God only you can change me, so be it so, if I need changing then let God do His work in me. I'm willing, always been.
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Originally posted by Money View Postwow, get a life
PS: Why can't people get warned for spam for posting just a smiley? I mean, in some situations one of the normal smileys as a post makes sense, but the ninja, wizard, and stupid pointing guy smiley are just stupid. Or, just get rid of those.
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mellow out kids.
demon possession:
Once, after church, J was hanging out with his crowd, and someone brought him a guy who couldn't see or talk(again, demon's fault). My buddy J, awesome nice guy that he is, healed this guy right away.
Everybody who saw it thought it was pretty cool, but the big shot preachers at the church didn't like J because he was stealing their thunder. They told everybody that J was demon possessed because he was doing this kind of stuff.
J told them that it doesn't make sense at all. "why would a demon drive out another demon. that don't make sense." he said.
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