At what point would you super-relgious types admit that you're wrong?

[Facetious]

God's promises never fail, nor does His judgement.

No, no, no. What would your first thought be if it weren't true? Would it be that "the Christian life is the best life to live" shit? Because it really seems like a whole lot less fun to me, at least objectively. I sort of wish I had a get-out-of-jail-free card for a bad day like "well, God still loves me" but the whole abstinence thing definitely sucks, as well as various other things, not the least of which being apparently having to throw your beliefs in everyone else's face constantly. Don't de-rail my thread with the same crap you post in every other thread. If you don't think it applies to you, don't post in it.

[Pummel]

Even though I'm not religious, religious people don't bother me. But what does bother me is when they frequently draw attention to the fact that they're religious, or go too far with it, quoting the bible etc. (Heavensent, Blueblaze)

[D1st0rt]

Who, of those who have written the Bible, have actually been to heaven and back to write about it? Everything the Bible says about heaven is just hearsay.

God> Yeah it's real nice, just trust me.

I'm not saying it's not a nice place but you can't cite the Bible's description as the reason why.

[Scurvy]

Child indoctrination is one of the most clever ruses of religion ever.

Zappa = new idol, apparently?

[Blueblaze]

Superted, the Bible speaks much about Heaven. If you ever read the book of Revelation, you will learn much about what Heaven is like. There are pearly gates, there are angels (maybe not on clouds, or playing harps) but there will be angels singing praise to the Lord, and if I can ever put it reverantly, there is a bouncer checking the list, not Peter, but all give an account to Jesus Christ and if their name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life (meaning, if they are saved). As well, there is no point of Christianity without the afterlife, otherwise your salvation is either in vain or is very weak. You must realize the depths of Christ's love to save us from hell, and you must realize the importance of our being in Heaven as well. Our purpose for life on earth, and life in Heaven is to glorify God, simple as that. I believe in Heaven we won't be playing games, or eating from all you can eat menus, or anything like that, but we will be constantly singing praises to our King.

As to the original point of the thread, Facetious, the point of my being isn't that if things go wrong, I can say, "Well even if this isn't true, the Christian life was a good life to live" the point is IT IS TRUE! Despite your warning, it is impossible! There is no other way but through Jesus Christ. God's Word is infailable, not one error, without lies or misleadings. Period. God's promises never fail, nor does His judgement.

[Jerome Scuggs]

Child indoctrination is one of the most clever ruses of religion ever. I've recently decided to shed my religion - yeah, I've been a terrible, terrible person but I'd claim to be a baptist - and though I've made the conscious choice to not be religious, a little part of me still winces and thinks "Man, God's going to be pissed" when something happens... 'cause I've been brought up religious since birth.

Alot of people say that's the Divine Being working in you, but I'd say it's the Divine Pavlov's Dog.

[Zerzera]

If you have no believe/religion you end up being an absurdist. You don't want to be an absurdist, believe me.

I don't believe in heaven, but I imagine I would be pretty sore if I die and someone's there to tell me that I wasted too much of my life to go to heaven.
On the other hand I don't think you have a bigger chance of getting to heaven because you acknowledge heaven.
I would be more interested in people's interpretation of the book of Job.

[Saturn V]

At what point would you super-relgious types admit that you're wrong?

Being a former super-religious type, I can say that I admitted I was wrong when I learned to think on my own. It happened when I moved away from the influence of my friends and the city I was in.

And I know that sounds cliche for this type of topic, but it's true.

[Liquid Blue]

It'd be a downer, but I'm not a christian for the afterlife.

I wish others were like you, I kinda hate to think how many act "christian" in an effort to be rewarded with a spot in heaven :turned:

[Facetious]

No.

[Sleuth]

Face are u atheist?

[Superted]

If I'm in the afterlife then surely that proves the existence of God in some form or another, be it giant hippopatmus or whatever? lol. I may realise some of my beliefs were wrong but the core of it wasn't, if i'm in heaven.

[Ephemeral]

Humans have a innate need to 'believe', it has been proven in behavior experiments. Young children yearn to believe, and are gullible and open to believe almost anything. So my opinion is that if religion were to be indisputably proven incorrect, (like aliens arrive and prove they began mankind) humans would find other things to believe in.

[Facetious]

Okay, but you get to the afterlife, and God isn't there. It's completely different stuff. A severed hippopotamus head is in charge. He puts everyone who believed in Noah's ark and all that stuff in the basement to do paperwork and lets everyone who didn't believe any of that do all the fun stuff. It's like that for 100 years, a thousand years, you're doing paperwork with all your church buddies. Are you still waiting for Jesus/God to come around and fill you with joy at that point? Or are you like "oh, shit..."

[Superted]

It'd be a downer, but I'm not a christian for the afterlife.

I'm a bit of a rarity it seems, the afterlife doesn't interest me that much.