ATN: USA, watch "Freedom River"

[Jonesy]

I thought that I'd share this awesome gem of a video, narrated by Orson Welles, with you guys. It was made over 30 years ago and, yes, is very relevant to our current time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKLirW24LE

[HeavenSent]

Thanks for sharing. :wub:

People are aware of their surroundings on different levels. The sad thing is that not everyone can see the same level as others. Those into politics cannot see what those into conspiracies are looking at. I'm not saying all conspiracy theories are true, but some are legitimate. Those into religion are almost opposite of those that believe there is no God. Neither one can really understand the other. It's like imagining society on different grade levels. 9th grade can understand everything under it, but nothing above it. 3rd grade hasn't a clue about anything above itself, but it knows 2nd & 1st like the back of its hand.

I think most people find a niche to occupy themselves (the video called it pride) and try not to be concerned with things where they feel they have no control. In so doing, they become tunnel-visioned with their perception of the world around them. Using the analogy of the video, they become blind to the true condition of the river of freedom.

The U.S. has been going steadily down hill since 1914 or when ever the year was when the bankers swindled our government into the idea of federal income tax. Shortly there after, we were at WW1. It wasn't long before "CONTROLS" started being implemented. Freedoms compromised. The prohibition tried to take alcohol from the people. At the time, the government and many businesses used hemp based products.. to which there were 10's of 1000s of products made with hemp. But people like DuPont & Rockefeller were determined to eliminate the competition. At the time, hemp based paper manufacturers had just invented a new machine to produce paper at much cheaper costs. However, peeps like DuPont, who supported the pulp paper manufacturing industry, and also had a hand in pharmaceuticals and the support of key politicians, convinced congress to tax the hell out of hemp to drive all hemp based companies out of business. In the late 20's hemp was taxed $1000 per ounce. By the 1930's, hemp became illegal. It's very similar to the methods used today against the tobacco companies. The government rescinded its law against hemp during WW2 because of textiles shortages and for a time hemp was legal again, but made illegal again after the war.

People should not be arrested for drugs. Instead people should be arrested for breaking the law, regardless as to whether or not the person was under the influence of any type of drug.

New laws are being made everyday... not becuase there's isn't a law already addressing the issue, but that it's another way for the local governments to make more money.

People are losing freedoms everyday in the name of national security & political correctness. Yet nothings really being done about the borders. Why? Because it compliments "The Illuminatis" agenda of globalism.

That "TRUTH" campaign is sooo full of SHIT propaganda.. Same with PETA & GREENPEACE... all propagandizing scare tactics.

His Story repeats.
America is modern day Israel. Israel had 42 kings; G.W. Bush is our 43rd president, but he's really our 42nd because Grover Cleveland served 2 nonconsecutive terms. Israel was taken over by the Babylonians with their last king. America will be taken over from within (as we already have been). Our National Treasury has been stolen as collateral to the interest we've borrowed. The next puppet president will complete the 'sell out' and America will lose it's sovereignty. The American Empire is on it's death bed. A whole new era is on the horizon.... and it's not pretty. Although people preoccupied with political correctness will be in superfluous joy.

[Kolar]

People are losing freedoms everyday in the name of national security & political correctness. Yet nothings really being done about the borders. Why? Because it compliments Big Business.

Fixed.

Edit: Not looking to start anything with you Heaven but you could cut the conspiracy/religion shit and more then explain why the US is in such a bad position today.

[HeavenSent]

Fixed.

You see? Case in point. (i knew Kolar would be my example) That's what i meant about different levels... You preceive it as big business. I see big business as executors & pawns of a higher cause. The goal is world domination through the guise of peace. The plan is of God telling the story of how Lucifer fell with all his power & pride. His Story repeats because it's a new testimony telling the same story.

Dan:8:25: And through his policy he will also cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he will magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many..

Ezek:7:25: Destruction comes; and they will seek peace, and there will be none.

[Kolar]

You see? Case in point. (i knew Kolar would be my example) That's what i meant about different levels... You preceive it as big business.

No boarder security isn't enforced that much because President Bush is not in line with his conservative base on the subject. He is a conservative who favors big business over everything else. Do I think it's a conspiracy, that he's even intelligent enough to keep anything hidden from the world or the American public? Fuck no, it's all out in the open. Also don't belittle people like that and don't insult my intelligence by quoting the bible. There's no higher level then a bunch of rich, old, money/power hungry fat white men looking for more. Perceive whatever you want, believe what you want, the truth and most logical answer to the world's ills can not be solved though faith or HeavenSent's perceptions.

[HeavenSent]

No boarder security isn't enforced that much because President Bush is not in line with his conservative base on the subject. He is a conservative who favors big business over everything else. Do I think it's a conspiracy, that he's even intelligent enough to keep anything hidden from the world or the American public? Fuck no, it's all out in the open. Also don't belittle people like that and don't insult my intelligence by quoting the bible. There's no higher level then a bunch of rich, old, money/power hungry fat white men looking for more. Perceive whatever you want, believe what you want, the truth and most logical answer to the world's ills can not be solved though faith or HeavenSent's perceptions.

Sleep on little primate. Someday you'll evolve to the next level. You're still young, naive & idealistic... not to mention a good little sheeple drone. <_<

Edit:> The thread was addressed to USA... not 'wave my little oak leaf' Socialist Canada. Kthx.

[Kolar]

You'll be joining Blueblaze very soon if you don't change your tone.

Edit: I'm anything but a socialist and I dislike libertarianism. Strong Democrat boarder on centrist. This forum is also multinational, I can respond to whatever I like.

[HeavenSent]

ROFL :lol: Would that make you feel good? hmm?
ya Wannabee puppetmaster! HAHA

Edit:> Kolar's a posting contradiction. Your river is Denial.
1. The thead was addressed to USA.. Me, American, gave my opinion.
2. Kolar, not American, posts, and tells me to "cut the conspiracy/religion shit" as if my freedom to express my opinion is limited... and his isn't? Did I tell him to cut the shit? Did I strike first?
3. Kolar threatens to ban me because of my 'primate.. evolve' comment. As if that's a cutting edge insult on this forum. He's the one with the friggin' monkey avatar! :thumbsup:
4. He know's where I stand and has seen similar posts from me. So it's quite obvious he wants to start some shit with me. Then perhaps he might have enough rope to hang me.

K w/e pfft.
you're pathetic..

[Kolar]

1. The thead was addressed to USA.. Me, American, gave my opinion.

As I said I can comment on anything I like, if the original poster doesn't like that tough shit. Anyone can notice I am not American by taking the 30ms to glance at my avatar info.

2. Kolar, not American, posts, and tells me to "cut the conspiracy/religion shit" as if my freedom to express my opinion is limited... and his isn't? Did I tell him to cut the shit? Did I strike first?

I said you could explain the position of your country without going into the conspiracy/religion bullshit, I never told you to cut it out until after. Your freedom of expression is also an none issue on this board, you and I are subject to forum policy/rules.

3. Kolar threatens to ban me because of my 'primate.. evolve' comment. As if that's a cutting edge insult on this forum.

Not an insult but definitely a threat. If you continue to cause problems on this forum and quote the bible like Blueblaze was told not to then you can sit out like he did.

4. He know's where I stand and has seen similar posts from me. So it's quite obvious he wants to start some shit with me. Then perhaps he might have enough rope to hang me.

Maybe "Not looking to start anything with you Heaven" means something else while you're stoned off your ass and jerking off to some bible passages but to me it means I'm being none hostile, that I'm offering a different point of view, that I'm not attacking you but here's something to consider. Now go back and read your other posts, think to your self this "who made this a personal argument"? Then take 10 minutes to consider if posting again would be a good idea or a bad idea.

[HeavenSent]

Maybe "Not looking to start anything with you Heaven" means something else while you're stoned off your ass and jerking off to some bible passages but to me it means I'm being none hostile, that I'm offering a different point of view, that I'm not attacking you but here's something to consider. Now go back and read your other posts, think to your self this "who made this a personal argument"? Then take 10 minutes to consider if posting again would be a good idea or a bad idea.

I rest my case.
UR an idiot.
Do us all a favor before you get a chance to procreate and bang your friggin' head against a friggin brick wall until you friggin die... K? I swear, of all the people on this forum, you alone have the worst case of delusions of grandeur. You're an intellectual idiot. <_<

[Mantra-Slider]

You're an intellectual idiot.

:wassat:

[D1st0rt]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Kolar is not only smarter than you, but also better at talking in general since everything he says isn't solely dependent on a single assumption.

[HeavenSent]

For those that put weight in your words & opinions.. hip hip hurray!

....And that's YOUR friggin opinion and you're quite welcome to say whatever the fuckin shit you want. Unlike your suck buddy kolar that has to say shit like "cut the conspiracy/religion shit" as if he's an authority on which opinion can be broadcasts. He's the intolerant one, not I. I haven't told anyone not to do or say anything.. yet i'm the bad guy here?

Then, to top it off, or in your case, to swallow his load, he's goes on to say "If you continue to cause problems on this forum and quote the bible like Blueblaze was told not to then you can sit out like he did."
Where the fuck did this come from?
So what? I posted a couple verses, like taglines, i thought relevant to the idea of my statement/opinion. Is that posting verses like Blueblaze? Gimme a friggin break ya simian homo! And cause problems? Who started on who's ass here? Swallow that load already! :turned:

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