Proud Parent

Didn't read the whole topic, excuse me!

But who is teaching your kids HS, you or your wife? And how old is your daughter now, 13-14 years old??
Isn't it expensive, you or your wife has a job but the other one doesn't and then you have to feed your child.

I'm not really into this home schooling stuff cause really you need school to develop your social abilities.

[HeavenSent]

12 I think, 13 maybe.. somewhere around there. Can't give you a grade cause it works way different over here.

Well i'm definately going to introduce her to sexuality this year. I'm hoping to break the ice with the beginning of that movie, "Look Who's Talking". It's an excellent animation of the fertilization process. If any finds a link to that scene please post it. thanks

[Galleleo]

12 I think, 13 maybe.. somewhere around there. Can't give you a grade cause it works way different over here.

[HeavenSent]

Our sex ed class or whatever you call it was hilarious. It was good stuff.

How old were you? What grade?

[Galleleo]

Our sex ed class or whatever you call it was hilarious. It was good stuff.

[HeavenSent]

Homeschooling? Are you fucking kidding me.. Instead of letting your daughter receive enjoyable experience out of studies by communicating with her peers and meeting new people, you lock her up at home in fear that she might learn something inappropriate for her age (such as sex education ). Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I understood by reading the majority of her posts. Give me a fucking break man. Your daughter might grow to be socially challenged and you will live to regret it. Let it be a natural way of learning, in a regular environment along with her peers, instead of giving her a book and sticking her nose into it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not preaching and I don't care one bit what happens to your daughter. Oh, and this reminded me of one of George Carlin's videos (fuck the children) where he makes fun of overprotective parents

[Ward]

Homeschooling? Are you fucking kidding me.. Instead of letting your daughter receive enjoyable experience out of studies by communicating with her peers and meeting new people, you lock her up at home in fear that she might learn something inappropriate for her age (such as sex education ). Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I understood by reading the majority of her posts. Give me a fucking break man. Your daughter might grow to be socially challenged and you will live to regret it. Let it be a natural way of learning, in a regular environment along with her peers, instead of giving her a book and sticking her nose into it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not preaching and I don't care one bit what happens to your daughter. Oh, and this reminded me of one of George Carlin's videos (fuck the children) where he makes fun of overprotective parents

[Cops]

I was doing some thinking and I may have an idea of how they determine the '11th grade level reading'.

I believe it's like this:

They have standardized scores for each question set, which is set for each grade.

So you have the grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, .... sets.

Then you have the average scores for each test.

Then using these scores, and the relative 'hardness' of each set of questions, they extrapolate how well the 'average' person in each grade would do the questions in other grades. Or perhaps they just make a bunch of 10th graders do a grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ... test and get those averages.

Then you compare.

So for instance, if you got 50% on the grade 4 test, you are at the grade 4 level. If you got 75% on it, they realize that the average grade 5 student gets that, so you are at the grade 5 level.

This is sort of a parabola, so when you get to the high numbers, it makes less and less sense. For instance, if you got 99.1% maybe it makes you are at grade 8 level. If you got 99.6% it means you are at a grade 12 level. At the end, it really doesn't matter. Because statistically an average grade 12 student would be able to do a grade 4 test and get every question right, but then again an average grade 7 student would probably be able to too.

So the test doesn't exactly say that the child is now 'doing math at a grade 10 level' or 'reading at a grade 9 level', it just means that if the average grade 10 or 9 student were to do that particular math or reading test, they'd get the same mark.

So in the end the results don't say that Heavensent's daughter can read what your average grade 10 student reads and understands it to the same level... BUT if the grade 10 student were to do the same test as she did, they'd get the same results (and since she got 99, I assume that means she got them all right except for the 1 question they randomly put in that was just accidentally WAAAY too hard, or maybe she got perfect and the results don't show 100, or maybe after bell curving the test she got the highest mark possible).

Probably the best post of this thread. I highly doubt that a 10 year old can read and fully understand books like 1984 or The Great Gatsby. I have no doubt she can read the books but does she understand the concepts, which to me seem a bit challenging for most grade 10 to 11's.

I'm not going to accuse Heavensent or WPE of "over assisting" their child but teachers are trained to not give too much information or assistance during tests but it seems like a parent might assist their child more than a teacher would.

[Cops]

Let me have a night with her and we'll sort this out.

that was just rude.

[AcidBomber]

holy smokes o.O you and WPE must be awesome home-schooling-parents =O


Grats! ^^... smart girl!

[Nickname]

for the record panda, the female condom is a joke

[Epinephrine]

I was doing some thinking and I may have an idea of how they determine the '11th grade level reading'.

I believe it's like this:

They have standardized scores for each question set, which is set for each grade.

So you have the grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, .... sets.

Then you have the average scores for each test.

Then using these scores, and the relative 'hardness' of each set of questions, they extrapolate how well the 'average' person in each grade would do the questions in other grades. Or perhaps they just make a bunch of 10th graders do a grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ... test and get those averages.

Then you compare.

So for instance, if you got 50% on the grade 4 test, you are at the grade 4 level. If you got 75% on it, they realize that the average grade 5 student gets that, so you are at the grade 5 level.

This is sort of a parabola, so when you get to the high numbers, it makes less and less sense. For instance, if you got 99.1% maybe it makes you are at grade 8 level. If you got 99.6% it means you are at a grade 12 level. At the end, it really doesn't matter. Because statistically an average grade 12 student would be able to do a grade 4 test and get every question right, but then again an average grade 7 student would probably be able to too.

So the test doesn't exactly say that the child is now 'doing math at a grade 10 level' or 'reading at a grade 9 level', it just means that if the average grade 10 or 9 student were to do that particular math or reading test, they'd get the same mark.

So in the end the results don't say that Heavensent's daughter can read what your average grade 10 student reads and understands it to the same level... BUT if the grade 10 student were to do the same test as she did, they'd get the same results (and since she got 99, I assume that means she got them all right except for the 1 question they randomly put in that was just accidentally WAAAY too hard, or maybe she got perfect and the results don't show 100, or maybe after bell curving the test she got the highest mark possible).

[HeavenSent]

lol. your skipping alot. im teaching my smaller brother some pre-algebra, hes in 5th grade right now. He understands it real well, but u cant go from fractions to algebra and graphing too big a step. I suggest multiplying and dividing fractions then to integers then one step equations with a variable then to multi step ones. then x on both sides. then beginning graphing. which eventually leads to slopes and functions and then so on.

I didn't mean to imply we were gonna skip everything in between. I was just looking over her math book for 5th grade and saw that she'll be doing algebra before the year's done.
There are no short-cuts in learning math properly... it's progressive knowledge.

[HeavenSent]

I'm pretty sure it evens itself out over time. It's still better than being behind obviously but it doesn't mean that when she is 16 she will still be years ahead. That makes sense, right? I mean, a high school grad who knows more than someone with a Masters in something? Not very likely. I'm pretty sure it's more skewed at a younger age.

It's not hard after all, right? They packages or whatever are designed so anyone can do it.

In fact the only thing, according to what I've read, that makes a child who went to private school more successful is the networking.

All of that is in reply to the various people who posted here. Nothing, obviously, changes the fact that the little girl is a smartie pants, which I think is a great thing.

I love the way you think :wub:
& i agree with most of what you've said. ^-^

[paradise!]

For math, she got as far as adding & subtracting fractions. She'll be starting algebra next.

lol. your skipping alot. im teaching my smaller brother some pre-algebra, hes in 5th grade right now. He understands it real well, but u cant go from fractions to algebra and graphing too big a step. I suggest multiplying and dividing fractions then to integers then one step equations with a variable then to multi step ones. then x on both sides. then beginning graphing. which eventually leads to slopes and functions and then so on.