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  • New "Earth-Like" Planet Found. Scientists say it's habitable.

    Link: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/0...19-502-ak-0000


    April 24, 2007 — Astronomers have found the first Earth-sized world circling its mother star at a distance suitable for life. It also has good prospects for liquid surface water — believed to be a key ingredient for life.

    "This planet will most probably be a very important target of the future space missions dedicated to the search for extra-terrestrial life," said Xavier Delfosse, with Grenoble University in France.

    It will be years before more sensitive instruments are developed to glean additional clues about whether life exists on the planet.
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    "It is not possible with current telescopes and instruments yet," Xavier Bonfils, an astronomer with the Lisbonne Observatory in Portugal, wrote in an e-mail to Discovery News. "But in the next decade, we may have the tools to answer this question."

    The planet, which is about 50 percent larger than Earth, circles a star in the constellation Libra known as Gliese 581, about 20.5 light-years away. Light travels in a vacuum at about 187,000 miles per second.

    Astronomers previously have found a Neptune-sized world circling Gliese 581, as well as strong evidence for a third planet about eight times the mass of Earth.

    The new planet, which is the smallest planet beyond our solar system found to date, circles its star 14 times closer than Earth orbits the sun. But because Gliese 581 is smaller and colder than our sun, the system's so-called habitability zone, where liquid water and thus life is possible, is closer to the mother star than in our solar system.

    Astronomers estimate the mean temperature of the newly discovered planet to be between 0 degrees and 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

    "Water would be liquid," notes lead researcher Stephane Udry with Switzerland's Geneva Observatory. "Models predict that the planet should be either rocky — like our Earth — or covered with oceans."

    The discovery likely will bolster efforts to find other Earth-like planets circling so-called red dwarf stars, which are the most common type of stars in our galaxy. Of the 100 closest stars to the sun, 80 are red dwarfs.

    "Red dwarfs are ideal targets for the search for such planets because they emit less light, and the habitable zone is thus much closer to them than it is around the sun," Bonfils said.

    Planets closer to their mother stars are typically easier to find than those farther away. The scientists, part of an international team from Switzerland, France and Portugal, submitted their findings for publication in the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.

    The discovery was made using with the Chile-based European Southern Observatory High Accuracy Radial Velocity for Planetary Searcher instrument.
    Interesting stuff.
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  • #2
    Let's start to get ready to export the convicts ... and hopefully it does not turn out to be better than earth in 100 years. :fear:


    p.s. this is as far fetching as the 1000 year human life expectancy. But I guess they can go hand in hand.
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    • #3
      I can see the inhabitants of that planet on these forums..

      GlieseMan> We got bigger fridges
      EarthMan> Our sun is bigger and hotter!
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      • #4
        Is it habitable for us humans though? If the mass of that planet is 5 times the mass of earth, wouldn't we all be crushed over there since we'd be 5 times heavier (correct me if I'm wrong)?

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        • #5
          HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY KNOW THAT? the planet is on the other side of the universe. They can say what they want, it's not like the 'saw' the planet. They just noticed a small gravitational pull by a planet (5x mass earth) on this star.

          It's impossible to see planets cuz they don't send light. So the only thing they know is that the star is sun like, the planet is 14 times closer to the sun and that this planet is 5 times as massive as earth.

          That's it. To conclude that it might be habitable is speculation but it can't be denied, so therefore it's right. (But in earlier days, they couldn't prove the earth was flat or round, so they just assumed one of the two options.)

          I don't know, I just think this thing is overdramatized and overmediatized.

          On the otherhand, aliens would be AWESOME!!! $$$
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          • #6
            If its 20 light years away, i imagain they will be watching all our 80s TV shows...
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            • #7
              Ok scientists do not say it's habitable.

              Not. Not. Not.

              They say: It's in the habitable ZONE.

              It's in the very same article posted.

              It will be years before more sensitive instruments are developed to glean additional clues about whether life exists on the planet.
              "It is not possible with current telescopes and instruments yet," Xavier Bonfils, an astronomer with the Lisbonne Observatory in Portugal, wrote in an e-mail to Discovery News. "But in the next decade, we may have the tools to answer this question."
              Originally posted by Pollux
              HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY KNOW THAT? the planet is on the other side of the universe. They can say what they want, it's not like the 'saw' the planet. They just noticed a small gravitational pull by a planet (5x mass earth) on this star.
              That's exactly what they did, and they don't say anything more than that.
              People just jump to frigging conclusions based on what they want it to mean.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by PolluX View Post
                HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY KNOW THAT? the planet is on the other side of the universe.
                Because they are very smart astronomics with very nice equiptment. And they wrote this so that we might understand it.

                But... who gives a fuck. We will clearly not travel there any time soon. And if there is life over there, they are clearly intelligent enough not to visit us.

                afk. polishing my javelin.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PolluX View Post
                  HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY KNOW THAT? the planet is on the other side of the universe. They can say what they want, it's not like the 'saw' the planet. They just noticed a small gravitational pull by a planet (5x mass earth) on this star.

                  It's impossible to see planets cuz they don't send light. So the only thing they know is that the star is sun like, the planet is 14 times closer to the sun and that this planet is 5 times as massive as earth.

                  That's it. To conclude that it might be habitable is speculation but it can't be denied, so therefore it's right. (But in earlier days, they couldn't prove the earth was flat or round, so they just assumed one of the two options.)
                  We do not have to ‘see’ a planet to be able to understand that it is there. We understand enough of the physical properties of the universe (mass, time, distance, and wavelengths) to predict planets in other solar systems. We can indentify other suns and the inhabitable ‘zones’ they support by using computer simulations of planetary system dynamics.

                  http://corot.oamp.fr/planets.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nycle View Post
                    Is it habitable for us humans though? If the mass of that planet is 5 times the mass of earth, wouldn't we all be crushed over there since we'd be 5 times heavier (correct me if I'm wrong)?
                    Some guys on SA forums did some calculations and came to the conclusion that it's either 2.2g or 1.6g (I can't remember the final decision), based on the information available. Earth is 1g, so it'll be uncomfortable and will probably require some sort of slow adaptation.


                    EDIT: From wikipedia:
                    Its mass calculation depends on other planets in the Gliese 581 system. Using the already known mass of Gliese 581 b, and assuming the existence of Gliese 581 d, Gliese 581 c has a mass 5.03 times that of Earth.

                    Under the assumption that it is a rocky planet, rather than an icy planet, Gliese 581 c has a radius 50% larger than Earth. Gravity on such a planet's surface is approximately 2.2 times stronger than on Earth.[1]
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                    • #11
                      There was another planet recently found also to contain large quantities of water. They could actually see it being evaporated as it crossed over its parent star.

                      The conditions of the planet are unknown, with modeling they've predicted it's either rocky like Earth or covered in oceans. Either is necessary, including liquid water for life (as we know it to be) to exist and evolve. Everything we know right now tells us once those factors and other exist life tends to emerge and develop quickly. Future observation of its atmosphere will give us a greater understanding of its make up and if life on Gliese 581c is even possible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T3l Ca7 View Post
                        Let's start to get ready to export the convicts ... and hopefully it does not turn out to be better than earth in 100 years. :fear:
                        That's why we invented your country.

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                        • #13
                          There's enough ice on mars that if it were to melt it would cover the entire surface with at least 8 metres of water. How about we just start holding Monster Truck rallies there instead of looking for some far off planets it would take 10s of thousands of years to reach.
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                          • #14
                            omg i think they've found flabby island :fear:
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                            • #15
                              I do not approve of the word Flabby.

                              I do approve of this planet, hopefully it contains a race of super hot lesbians with heat seeking boobs and vibrating pussys.
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