Area 51 rumors, real or fake?

[Jerome Scuggs]

and IMO, i bet the government moved anything of interest out of Area 51 years ago and they're laughing now that they pulled off a huge sleight-of-hand. with everyone focused on area 51, noone notices DJ Qualls running around America.

[Galleleo]

Why wouldn't we be of interest? Aren't we trying desperately to find other life? Isn't it a noble if not genuinely curious venture to find out that one isn't alone in the world?

First off, spending so much money on trying to find alien life makes no sense, cause if we find Alien life, it's likely that we are smarter then them, and thus have no use off them. And if they are smarter then us, then they'll find us before we find them.

It's not arrogant to think that we are the only ones in the universe when all the information we've been gathering with newer technologies shows no scientific evidence that any place would even be hospitiable to life. Secondly, the time scale of the known universe is already so immense that even if we did find life, they'd probably be dead and gone since the info we can gather is thousands if not millions of years old. Also it would be impossible to acheive two way communication with anything over such a huge distance.

They found a planet that looks viable to host life in another solar system.

[flibb]

aliens

[IKM]

It's not arrogant to think that we are the only ones in the universe when all the information we've been gathering with newer technologies shows no scientific evidence that any place would even be hospitiable to life. Secondly, the time scale of the known universe is already so immense that even if we did find life, they'd probably be dead and gone since the info we can gather is thousands if not millions of years old. Also it would be impossible to acheive two way communication with anything over such a huge distance.

No, it is arrogant to think so. Do you understand how large the universe is? I can understand your views on communication problems (that we face on this planet at least), but I think that they could be overcome with more advanced technology and/or a better understanding of physics.

[PH]

[Zeebu]

ehh
way i see it, the universe is really big

and our planet might have overcome some huge ginormous odds to be some fluke accident in the sense that it can support life

well, chances are it has happened somewhere else in this large amount of space at one point of time

probably more than once


on the other side...
no effin way we will ever run into any of them, or them into us

[Jerome Scuggs]

First off, spending so much money on trying to find alien life makes no sense, cause if we find Alien life, it's likely that we are smarter then them, and thus have no use off them. And if they are smarter then us, then they'll find us before we find them.



They found a planet that looks viable to host life in another solar system.

it's pretty ballsy to sum up all other forms of life in a forums post

i mean... what if there's a super-advanced race who transcended meaning and realized visiting us would just be a waste? if i was an alien and i saw earth, i'd back the fuck up.

or, what if there's a super-stupid race who live near a simpsons-esque sinkhole of time and space and one day will stumble in, and wind up in dallas, texas?

discovering an alien race would be incredibly cost-beneficial. for one, technology that we use to reach further into space will one day help us when we need to leave earth, assuming we aren't extinct. the sun's not finite, and if we're around when it goes, we won't wanna be around on this planet.

or, what if we discover a species that isn't sentient - but isn't carbon-based? or one that can live without water or oxygen?

when you view it through a shirt-term scope, yeah, the search for aliens might seem a bit too much, considering we can barely hold it together here. but in the long-term, there's infinite possibilities - and we don't have to find aliens to discover it. ever take a look at the technology developed just to get into our immediate outer space?

some immediates:

-An air filtration system that can kill all types of harmful bacteria - even anthrax -- and remove allergens from the air with better than 90 percent efficiency.

-An ultralight solar concentrator that gathers power from the Sun and efficiently converts it into electrical power. This could provide a significant source of energy for future space missions.

-A water purification process capable of removing two troublesome types of contaminants, perchlorate and nitrate, from water and rendering them harmless.

-A "space rose" that produces an entirely new scent. By growing the rose, or other plants in a space environment, scientists saw changes in properties of the essential oils - where all fragrance and flavor come from -opening up thousands of new possibilities for better tasting foods and tantalizing new aromas.

A NASA lab technician invented the concept for the computer mouse. Weather-tracking satellites - hell, satellites themselves, of all types (weather, communication, etc), were created for the need of space exploration. Cochlear implants that help deaf people hear speech - thanks, NASA! Hell, even digital cameras were invented for space-use.

Now, all that came in the past 40-50 years, and we only needed them to get to the moon. Imagine what we'll come up with when we need to get further out. And then imagine them when we apply them to problems on Earth.

[Vykromond]

just posting itt so i can get a post next to jerome my new avatar/forumtitle doppelganger

[Zeebu]

just posting itt so i can get a post next to jerome my new avatar/forumtitle doppelganger

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[Xog]

it's pretty ballsy to sum up all other forms of life in a forums post

i mean... what if there's a super-advanced race who transcended meaning and realized visiting us would just be a waste? if i was an alien and i saw earth, i'd back the fuck up.

or, what if there's a super-stupid race who live near a simpsons-esque sinkhole of time and space and one day will stumble in, and wind up in dallas, texas?

discovering an alien race would be incredibly cost-beneficial. for one, technology that we use to reach further into space will one day help us when we need to leave earth, assuming we aren't extinct. the sun's not finite, and if we're around when it goes, we won't wanna be around on this planet.

or, what if we discover a species that isn't sentient - but isn't carbon-based? or one that can live without water or oxygen?

when you view it through a shirt-term scope, yeah, the search for aliens might seem a bit too much, considering we can barely hold it together here. but in the long-term, there's infinite possibilities - and we don't have to find aliens to discover it. ever take a look at the technology developed just to get into our immediate outer space?

some immediates:

-An air filtration system that can kill all types of harmful bacteria - even anthrax -- and remove allergens from the air with better than 90 percent efficiency.

-An ultralight solar concentrator that gathers power from the Sun and efficiently converts it into electrical power. This could provide a significant source of energy for future space missions.

-A water purification process capable of removing two troublesome types of contaminants, perchlorate and nitrate, from water and rendering them harmless.

-A "space rose" that produces an entirely new scent. By growing the rose, or other plants in a space environment, scientists saw changes in properties of the essential oils - where all fragrance and flavor come from -opening up thousands of new possibilities for better tasting foods and tantalizing new aromas.

A NASA lab technician invented the concept for the computer mouse. Weather-tracking satellites - hell, satellites themselves, of all types (weather, communication, etc), were created for the need of space exploration. Cochlear implants that help deaf people hear speech - thanks, NASA! Hell, even digital cameras were invented for space-use.

Now, all that came in the past 40-50 years, and we only needed them to get to the moon. Imagine what we'll come up with when we need to get further out. And then imagine them when we apply them to problems on Earth.

There are cricket-like bugs on our moon. There is a very thin layer of oxygen on there, because of the fact that its a piece of a giant asteroid that got seperated somehow.



My question though, is.. why the hell are all the planets mostly elliptical? Why not a very "oval" sized one, or a squarish planet?.. think about how round objects, like balloons, or soap bubbles, and how those are made.. it's quite fascinating to think about :P

[Galleleo]

I was just repeating what I heard a comedian say sometime.

[Jerome Scuggs]

My question though, is.. why the hell are all the planets mostly elliptical? Why not a very "oval" sized one, or a squarish planet?.. think about how round objects, like balloons, or soap bubbles, and how those are made.. it's quite fascinating to think about :P

that's more of a physics thing. i've never taken a course, but i assume if you have a bunch of mass come together and it spins and develops gravity, it would become spherical

[Vykromond]

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[Squeezer]

Hilarious Vyk....really uhm funny.

[DankNuggets]

you seriously don't know why planets are elliptical(actually oviod)? it's because of gravity, yes. the reason it's not perfectly spherical are twofold- one, its spinning so the equator bulges out; two, it's not a homogeneous material so we have things like mountains and oceans to provide contour.

oh and i might point out that no one knows how big the universe is, how it was made, if there's and end to it, or where we stand in it.

it may be hard to justify spending millions if not billions of dollars on space exploration, seeing as how that money could immediately impact those of us on earth. However, the inventions we've created in the "space race" have moved us forward in a way no other driving force aside from war has. And I've got to believe that money invested in space is better spent than money wasted on foriegn wars. Afterall, they're both expensive, endless, and at least going into space isn't killing that many people.