Why Dameon Angell believes Rock Band will Fail

[Dameon Angell]

Two Words:

STEEL BATTALION

If you are unfamiliar with the game, here's a Wiki, a picture, and I'll give a short explanation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Batallion




Coming in at $200, this Xbox v1 game was graphically amazing, engrossing, and felt to be this "next generation"-style in a current gen system. Like Mechwarrior, you're a bi-pedal tank that basically destroys other bi-pedal tanks. What set this apart was the insane controller made specifically for this game. You go through a few switches to start up, and if you're about to die, you need to flip open your emergency escape pod button. If you don't escape, you die. YOU FUCKING DIE. Your game crashes, your save data is erased, you start over.

Now, I am going to be straight with you here. I want to play Rock Band, I will probably buy Rock Band. It looks far superior to Guitar Hero. Now, that being said. Steel Battalion looked better than MechAssault. It seemed superior to MechAssault, but that $200 price tag prevented many people from trying it out.

Now, if you already have the Guitar Controller for the Xbox 360 version of Guitar Hero 2, you can buy Rock Band (without the mic ((which you can probably use the headset for)), drums, or guitar) for $59.99. That's not bad. But, for most of us without the pieces, we gotta get the bundle. That bundle costs $200.

Rock Band will rock. But, I don't think it'll sell as many units as Guitar Hero 3 which will give it the statistic victory. Guitar Hero 3 is going to be on the PS2 as well as the 360+PS3. A lot of people have their PS2 Guitars, so they'll pick up Guitar Hero 3 for $50 (10 bucks less than the next-gen) and be well satisfied.

Note: This was spawned from my Bioshock thread.

[phata$$]

MechWarrior wasn't as popular as Guitar Hero so the comparison is flawed. Rock Band will definitely be better than Steel Battalion. Hell, even Guitar Hero was better than Steel Battalion. The learning curve for this game is almost non-existent compared to that mech simulator shit device. With the success of the Wii and the previous Guitar Hero games, it proves that we want social/casual games. If anything, Rock Band will fail because people won't want to shell out the money not because it's a bad game.

[Squeezer]

Also, that game you listed above is more of a solo heavy gamer type while as Rock Band is more of a social lighthearted game. Rock Band will reach more people than that game because more people from varied backgrounds would rather play a rockstar simulation than a mechwarrior type of interactive game.

Like I said in the other thread, just go in with 3 or 4 friends and it's not so bad.

[stark]

I'm gonna have to aggree... at college no one's gonna be like "let's get shitty and play steel battalion"

[Dameon Angell]

Statistically more people will go out and buy Guitar Hero 3 looking at the considerable price difference for the same basic game.

Also...

One thing about Rockband, it's going to have a new downloadable song every week for the first year it's out. Not saying that makes it worth $200 but there's definitely going to be more to it than just a guitar and a couple downloadable songs.

And how much per song is that gonna be? If it's free, then good, but if you gotta pay 200 points per song or something, fuck.

[Necromotic]

bad comparison

[Dameon Angell]

Same shit, different pile.

[Liquid Blue]

Brawl will win regardless and crush all opposition

where are you left 4 dead

where are you

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Coming in at $200, this Xbox v1 game was graphically amazing, engrossing, and felt to be this "next generation"-style in a current gen system. Like Mechwarrior, you're a bi-pedal tank that basically destroys other bi-pedal tanks. What set this apart was the insane controller made specifically for this game. You go through a few switches to start up, and if you're about to die, you need to flip open your emergency escape pod button. If you don't escape, you die. YOU FUCKING DIE. Your game crashes, your save data is erased, you start over.

No doubt--this game sucked balls. I'm with you here.

Now, if you already have the Guitar Controller for the Xbox 360 version of Guitar Hero 2, you can buy Rock Band (without the mic ((which you can probably use the headset for)), drums, or guitar) for $59.99. That's not bad. But, for most of us without the pieces, we gotta get the bundle. That bundle costs $200.

Yeah, but you can just buy the game, or just the game and a guitar (same as any Guitar Hero game). Assuming your boring ass just wanted to jam on faux guitars for the rest of your days, you could feasibly do so. But that's the thing--Rock Band lets you play the other instruments. Yes, you're going to be paying for those other peripherals, but you already do that for Guitar Hero, so I don't see badmouthing one over the other over price.

Shit, if we were gonna do that, I'd ask why I had to buy an extra guitar for GH2? Why didn't it just come with two in the first place? I want my free shit, and I want it now!

Truth be told, $200 for the bundle seems fairly cheap to me, assuming that the controllers are decently solid.

Rock Band will rock. But, I don't think it'll sell as many units as Guitar Hero 3 which will give it the statistic victory.

Total units? Yeah, GH3 will initially outsell RB (most likely because of the PS2 version). But which game has the potential to go down as a big gameplay coup? GH3 is a retread at best--RB is the real innovator, and the wave of the future.

[Vykromond]

Did Steel Battalion actually suck balls? I never had any friends who actually bought it. I was very interested in playing it and still am, but I'd rather not pay $1500 to play one game (I don't have any video game systems, nor a TV).

[Jerome Scuggs]

i was going to mention steel battalion in that other thread - god, i want to play it.

anyways, apparently GH3 and rock band are 2 seperate games, i didn't know that. but GH3's guys are willing to make their guitar controllers compatible with rock band (and, i assume, vice versa) if Harmonix asks

[Jerome Scuggs]

I'm gonna have to aggree... at college no one's gonna be like "let's get shitty and play steel battalion"

you have never been to Georgia Tech :P

[Kontrolz]

The weekly downloadable songs aren't going to be free but I also doubt that each one is going to cost 200 points. Also, Rock Band is going to have entire albums you can download and play, an entire album ( info here ).

Truth be told, $200 for the bundle seems fairly cheap to me, assuming that the controllers are decently solid.

According to the people at XBox Magazine the equipment is very solid. The people who got to demo the game said that they were really pounding on the drums hard and that it even comes with real drum sticks. And the guitar has a second set of buttons way up on the neck for those "badass" solos.

[Jerome Scuggs]

According to the people at XBox Magazine the equipment is very solid. The people who got to demo the game said that they were really pounding on the drums hard and that it even comes with real drum sticks. And the guitar has a second set of buttons way up on the neck for those "badass" solos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockband-guitar.jpg

edit: what would be cool is, if the cord actually plugged in to the jack

[Noah]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockband-guitar.jpg

edit: what would be cool is, if the cord actually plugged in to the jack

I'm 90% sure it is, I saw the gamespot E3 special, and it had a 40 minute session about Rock Band. I can remember looking at the guitars and thinking that they had done a very good job with the guitars for this game, this included.

This game will not fail, it is going to go way past GH3 as soon as a PS3 will be more of a standard console instead of a richman console.

It will also have a feature that allows you to go online, and find band members to play with, and form bands with. So you can sit and play drums in your living room while a guy from Poland sings, and a guy from Japan does the guitar and some US guy does the bass.

Every feature I can think of is added to this game.

The ONLY thing that is negative, and this is pretty fresh, is that MTV bought it all up (600$ million I think). I hate MTV, and they might turn this game into another of their braindead teen-appealing bullshit entertainment.