Faith and intelligence

[T3l Ca7]

In contrast to common belief on this forum, there is little correlation between being faithful and being stupid. However, being excessively religious is usually a reflection of being weak.

Remember my thread about I have faith because I must? (Oo, I have to mention it simply because I am so in love with that topic :wub: )

People who have blind faith, not because they can't do well in Maths or Physics. But because they need to believe, because they are afraid of uncertainty, they can not handle the fact there might be no meaning in their lives. They have faith because they must, because without which there is very little for them to go on.

Therefore it is very hard to convert a religious person (though it is easier to convert them from one religion to another), because that would be like to remove the life supporting system from a person who has no other means of survival.

That is also why atheists tend to be more of assh0les than religious people, simply because strong headed people tend to need less validation from other people :fear: (atheists: <3 kz :wub: )

[DoTheFandango]

I have faith in the fact that you are unintelligent.

[T3l Ca7]

2 weak, son. toooooo weak.

You may not have any chance at that being the fact, but at least you have hope.

[Shan]

I have faith in the fact that you are unintelligent.

Haha amen.

[Superted]

Psychology lessons with Dr. Telcat

[Foreign]

This doesn't make any sense to me. I can guess, judging by most of your other posts, that you're only trying to get a rise out of someone like myself. In case I'm wrong: If one believes out of fear, can we really call that faith? As soon as something comes along to challenge that kind of faith, one would be free from believing in it. In the position I stand in, faith in action takes the form of love following the example set by the One I believe in. It's impossible for me to love in the midst of fear. If I believed simply out of fear my faith would collapse from within. I don't see myself as unintelligent. I can grasp all of the concepts presented by those who argue against my faith. When it comes down to it, my faith makes more sense in my life than anything else. I can see pieces that fit together in my life that are much stronger arguments for my faith than any scientist or mathematician could present.

[HeavenSent]

She's just looking for validation for her own ignorance.
"Anyone out there stupid, cynically stupid like me?" :cat:
"Birds of a feather flock together"... she's lost her flock.. & trying to find 'em.

K i'm done. B)

[Chao.]

I think MHZ is living proof one does not need to be religious to be stupid/arrogant/pushy/inconsiderate/hostile.

[Cops]

Telcat way to bring up another thread that pins religious people against atheists, who both coincidently claim moral and intellectual superiority over the other.

I don't even need to read this thread to know it will turn into MHz blowing his mouth off about how religious people are foolish and I know Heavensent will quote the bible like some sort of twisted scholar finding gaps and holes to tie his theories together.

Stop wasting my fucking time, and get the fuck off this forum. I can't fathom why you people even defend you, seriously.

[MetalHeadz]

You're true in your assumption that people with belief are not necessarily 'stupid'. That would infer that the majority of the USA and Middle-Eastern countries population was stupid, which isn't the case. Possibly, I could argue, deluded though.

Reversely, there is a strong correlation between athiesm and intelligence.

[SEAL]

Do you think you have a spirit Telcat? (is there life before being born/ after death?)

[Singularity]

You're true in your assumption that people with belief are not necessarily 'stupid'. That would infer that the majority of the USA and Middle-Eastern countries population was stupid, which isn't the case. Possibly, I could argue, deluded though.

Reversely, there is a strong correlation between athiesm and intelligence.

If you are an atheist you just proved yourself wrong there.

Cops must have had divine knowledge about this thread. I BELIEVE

[T3l Ca7]

This doesn't make any sense to me. I can guess, judging by most of your other posts, that you're only trying to get a rise out of someone like myself. In case I'm wrong: If one believes out of fear, can we really call that faith? As soon as something comes along to challenge that kind of faith, one would be free from believing in it. In the position I stand in, faith in action takes the form of love following the example set by the One I believe in. It's impossible for me to love in the midst of fear. If I believed simply out of fear my faith would collapse from within. I don't see myself as unintelligent. I can grasp all of the concepts presented by those who argue against my faith. When it comes down to it, my faith makes more sense in my life than anything else. I can see pieces that fit together in my life that are much stronger arguments for my faith than any scientist or mathematician could present.

You got it wrong, I did not mean you have faith because you are afraid. I simply mean, you have faith because there is necessity for you to believe, because without which there is little left in your life. By that I do not mean you are worthless, I simply mean life is essentially meaningless to start with. Of course that point is arguable. I definitely did not try to get a high out of people like you. I was stating something I thought was a fact. If life is truly meaningless, how would I be on any ground to look down upon anyone else?

Besides, do faith really fit better in your life than maths or science, or does it just make you feel more comfortable?

She's just looking for validation for her own ignorance.
"Anyone out there stupid, cynically stupid like me?"
"Birds of a feather flock together"... she's lost her flock.. & trying to find 'em.

K i'm done.

When was the last time you feel good about yourself apart from the time you thought 'you were with God'? I really want to know, because I could not see how a common person like yourself bother to live without deceiving yourself into believing God meant you to do bigger things.

[T3l Ca7]

Telcat way to bring up another thread that pins religious people against atheists, who both coincidently claim moral and intellectual superiority over the other.

I don't even need to read this thread to know it will turn into MHz blowing his mouth off about how religious people are foolish and I know Heavensent will quote the bible like some sort of twisted scholar finding gaps and holes to tie his theories together.

Stop wasting my fucking time, and get the fuck off this forum.

Whose fault? You chose to read this thread and post a reply on it?

Do you think you have a spirit Telcat? (is there life before being born/ after death?)

I do not know but I do not think so.

[Superted]

Reversely, there is a strong correlation between athiesm and intelligence.

Really?! Wow! I wasn't aware of this study, I don't suppose you have a few references? Preferably to a journal and not ihatereligion.com