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  • #31
    Originally posted by Galleleo View Post

    So Jack and Kate have a kid, its called Eric and then ominous music?
    This is Heros roommate..Galleleo, from what I heard..maybe you can rewatch it. I heard 'Erin.' I'm guessing its fucking Claires baby. I called that when Clair told Kate to grab her when they were hanging their clothes. It would be pretty sweet if it was Erin.
    the price is right, bitch.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hero* View Post
      This is Heros roommate..Galleleo, from what I heard..maybe you can rewatch it. I heard 'Erin.' I'm guessing its fucking Claires baby. I called that when Clair told Kate to grab her when they were hanging their clothes. It would be pretty sweet if it was Erin.
      Yes, Kate's "Kid" is Claire's baby Aaron.

      Shit musta hit the fan.
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      • #33
        Makes sense.. how come I didn't think of that..

        Dam, did I miss any of the survivors that we now know off? I can remember 5 right now, but I know you have tons of details in your mind.
        Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.

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        • #34
          One strange thing I picked up: Jack says at trial that there were 8 survivors when the plane crashed, but earlier Hurley says when he's getting arrested that he is one of the "Oceanic 6." So what happened to the 2 people?

          As soon as I saw the baby I and his blonde hair I thought it was Sawyer's. But Aaron! What happens to Claire?

          I didnt pick up on the Jack-crazy, Jack-normal time discrepancy. Good call. I wonder what makes him rethink the plan about saying there were only 8 survivors.

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          • #35
            OK so kate is taking care of baby Aron. Huge hint that Claire is not part of the survivers.

            So the chopper didn't get back to the ship?

            So Daniel and Charlotte are playing cards, trying to get the "jetta" minds on the island?

            And Henry is quite the powerfull man with availible resources.

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            How about this theory:
            http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44617

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            • #36
              Helicopter does make, IMO:

              1. Said lives, we saw that last week.
              2. That thingy that got shot to the island from the ship, didn't arrive when it was supposed to, but had a huge delay.. so chopper has the same but goes slower than that object?

              As I counted: there are 5 survivors right now to be seen in the flash forwards: Jack, Kate, Ben, Said and Hurley. I am thinking, if Dameon was right and Michael is on that boat, he is going to be a survivor too.
              Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.

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              • #37
                Wasn't a bad episode this week, I need to see a lot more action.
                it makes me sick when i think of it, all my heroes could not live with it so i hope you rest in peace cause with us you never did

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Galleleo View Post
                  I am thinking, if Dameon was right and Michael is on that boat, he is going to be a survivor too.
                  Oh, I am right, but we don't know if he'll live to tell his tale, if you catch my drift.

                  Now, the time gap between Druggie Jack and Sober Jack, the way we see the "flash forwards" (FFs) doesn't mean it's in chronological order, yet.

                  This is the most likely version so far. Sober Jack basks in the glow of his newfound hero-ness and the events of Hurley's FF and then Kate's FF happen. Sometime after, something happens to Jack. Possibly a death or something to turn him into Druggie Jack. At the end of that FF, Kate said that she "had to go, he's waiting for me." Now it's known that the "He" we were wondering isn't Sawyer or another guy, it's Aaron, her "kid".

                  Now, when Jack was on the stand, he stated that there were 8 survivors of the crash and they landed in the water. We all know Jack landed in the jungle and there were around 50 survivors. We also know Jack went to Hurley asking if he was gonna keep the secret. The obvious secret is what lies in Jack's false testimony. Some shit's gonna hit the fan and they don't want the public to know. Most likely out of fear of being arrested for murder or such.

                  Originally posted by SEAL
                  OK so kate is taking care of baby Aron. Huge hint that Claire is not part of the survivers.

                  So the chopper didn't get back to the ship?

                  So Daniel and Charlotte are playing cards, trying to get the "jetta" minds on the island?

                  And Henry is quite the powerfull man with availible resources.
                  1. Most likely, Clare didn't make it.
                  2. Nope, the chopper didn't get back, as you saw in the previews.
                  3. There's more to these three than we're led to believe. Something like Psychic soldiers or something paranormal like that.
                  4. His name is not Henry, it's Ben. And Ben is obviously more powerful than we can guess. Remember the flash forward. He not only makes it off the island, but Sayid is working as an assassin for Ben.
                  5. The Astorian theory is pretty cool, but there is still some room for error with it, but was an interesting read.
                  Last edited by Dameon Angell; 02-23-2008, 04:28 PM.
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                  • #39
                    I didn't say Druggie Jack happened before Sober Jack. That's why I said Kate would win the lawsuit (at least not go to Jail after I was only 17 min in the episode.)

                    What previews, I have seen no previews.. But if the chopper doesn't make it back to the ship, what about Sayid, he is gonna survive right? What we could see from that thing sent from the ship, there was a delay in when it was supposed to arrive and when it actually did arrive. Now that thing was fired and probably goes a hell of a lot faster than a chopper. So I would guess that chopper is slowed down significantly too, but it takes even longer for that chopper because his speed is lower.

                    Ow, and Jack saying they landed in the water could have something to do with the news that the plane was found in some deep as trench in the sea, according to the outside world.

                    Now apparently Ben wields great power, and maybe his story (of how he got on the Island and stuff) is not true. I mean if he has this power and stuff, but only got there as a lonely boy.. who knows.

                    It seems that at the very least, JJ Abrams knows about the Jacobs and stuff. It could explain the whispers, etc.. the magnetic field on the island. All that kind of stuff. This theory could explain the original inhabitants, I mean that guy that freed Ben and later helped Locke, never Aged.. so what if he is already dead or something like that?

                    Edit: What I wonder, when Lost ends, do you think JJ Abrams will somehow make his story known to the world? Where he got everything from, what everything means, etc? I don't think every question we could possibly have will be solved unless this show runs another 20 seasons.

                    Edit2: Man, JJ Abrams and his staff must have some knowledge if you see all the things people are linking lost too, books and stuff.

                    And: Its amazing how much time some people put into deciphering lost.. I could never watch 1 episode twice within like at least a month without losing some interest because I saw it all before.
                    Last edited by Galleleo; 02-23-2008, 10:44 PM.
                    Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.

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                    • #40
                      to clear things up..
                      6 people got off the Island hence the 'Oceanic 6'. 8 people survived the crash, of the 40 or whatever; (its a story Jack made up to help Kate) 2 of which died. So the people who returned are the Oceanic 6.

                      Ben is NOT a member of the Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on that flight. So we are still looking for more..unless they say he was but he isnt on the manuscript so that wont work.. We have Kate, Jack, Aaron (if they count him), Sayid, and Hurley.
                      the price is right, bitch.

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                      • #41
                        Which is why I'm curious they included 2 extra people at all, since theyre lying. Who did they choose to share that "died?"

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                        • #42
                          okay okay okay. but what do you think is happening?

                          Beside epsiode by episode talk, what's your theory? What is it all about?
                          It doesn't have to be right, and dont steal it from the internet, im just curious of different thoughts =)

                          I'm in between a "bermuda triangle" island. Which leaves alot of weird things left. Such as polar bears, smoke, the foot. But it solves darma experimenting, and the makers can solve alot of 'weird things' (lock walking) by claiming it's the amount of electericity in the air doing stuff to the enviroment.

                          Or my nr two is that everything is in the far-away future. this can explain alot..alot of the story can fit then.

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                          • #43
                            Well, I've had two main theories throughout the entire Lost series. One that's pretty much remained constant since the middle of Season 2 and another I keep having to append with each new thing coming up.

                            1. The Lost Real Life Experiment.

                            Doesn't matter where we're going or how we get there, but there is going to be an end point. And this end point will be Marvin Candle, or Mark Wickmund, or whatever his real name is, standing in a lab or viewing room of sorts. He'll look up at the camera with a shit-eating grin and congratulate you in completing this journey. The whole show is an experiment to see how one could be strung along following certain clues, playing into their hands every time we go onto a message board to figure out what X is or why Y happened to Z. We are all in the Swan being viewed by the Pearl. That's my "for fun" theory. I got the idea from Lost being used as where "the Dharma Initiative" and "the Hanso Foundation" are real organizations in the real world and this show is being made to go against them for some X reason.

                            2. The Real Theory

                            I don't think we're going to get all the answers when this story finishes. In some ways, I wouldn't wanna know everything, because that takes away from the mysticism that keeps you coming back every week. But, I do think we'll get to the bottom of who Ben really is and why these Psychic Soldiers are going after him. Yes, I said "Psychic Soldiers". Got Bruce Lee talking to ghosts and Faraday guessing cards he can't see. I still don't know what to make of the aussie chick, not enough information. But they're all here to get Ben 10 over here, who's all but been crucified by Locke and his gang.

                            The other big point is the time difference. No clue how the hell that one's gonna work out. But a couple clues to it are: Hurley picking up some old time music on the radio, the "Lost Experience 2" where our hero gets a contemporary listening of Amelia Erhardt's disappearance on his, the downed airplane in the Pacific found (by the Lost Experience 2 guy), the Dharma logo in the desert, and Faraday's Rocket. We've been beating around the bush for far too long on this one. This is why Ben's been using this as his hideout for so long.

                            Now, what we do know. Ben gets out free, Sayid works for him as an assassin. Ben has a ton of money, and Bruce Lee wants 2.3 million of it. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Ben, and Baby Aaron, make it off the island. Ben and Aaron probably don't count as the "Oceanic 6", though. And one of the people Kate and Jack apparently know, most likely a survivor, dies. He is also considered neither friend nor family to Jack.

                            I don't have a theory that gives wild ass answers, but realistically, I don't think we'll know everything anyways in the end.
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                            • #44
                              Hmm. I've thought about you're point 1 too.

                              I also had the (1.1) thought that this whole experiance plays in Jack's mind. He's making all this up.

                              Both cases would be lame if they did that though.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SEAL View Post
                                Hmm. I've thought about you're point 1 too.

                                I also had the (1.1) thought that this whole experiance plays in Jack's mind. He's making all this up.

                                Both cases would be lame if they did that though.
                                Seriously, that would be the equivalent of Rowling writing "and then Harry woke up [from his dream]" at the end of the potter books.
                                thread killer

                                Also who changed to pw to Squadless, how am I supposed to fly the banner of sucking at the game

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