need a new pair of shoes, suggestions?

[Jeenyuss]

geno.

gonna nuke florida, sick of looking at america's jockstrap. more like jacquestrap amirite? go france.

[Chao.]

http://www.footaction.com/catalog/productdetail/model_nbr--92020/sku--22882181/cm--71940/

[genocidal]

It's about time!

Oh score I don't think these boards have had a Hiroshima/Nagasaki debate in at least a year and a half.

[Kolar]

You may be able to say japan was on the brink of surender, however it was a world war. More was at stake then 2 countries. Those bombs were a necessary evil in a time of war. Japan didnt mind taking lives in pearl harbor, germany didnt mind taking lives from the lusitania ship. Granted this was a smaller scale, however if the bombs werent done when they were, there could have been more countless lives lossed. More then just japan.

Japan was the only member of the Axis remaining at the time of the drop. I am not saying the West committed any greater or lesser crimes during WW2, it doesn't really matter today. No one is clean in war, everyone has their sins. What we know today is that given that Japan was the only remaining power against the Allies, and given their dire state of affairs the attack on their dense civilian populations did nothing to hasten the end of the war.

[HateTheFake]

I don't think that is the general consensus by historians and scholars today. Yet we still teach it to our children. I was taught that when we studied history. Many account the operation to the overzealous politicians and military commanders of the time more interested in image and bolstering American military superiority over that of winning a war. Japan was on the brink of surrender, an invasion was unnecessary with or without atomic weapons and the fact that it was a strike on a civilian population makes it a war crime and morally indefensible.


I think what you are trying to do here HTF is to prove your sense of nationalism correct by using an era of great strife, yet probably the era of strongest friendship and loyalty between Western nations. Is it worth it to prove your point by sullying the name of the dead, be it Canadian, European or American soldiers and civilians who died?

You may be able to say japan was on the brink of surender, however it was a world war. More was at stake then 2 countries. Those bombs were a necessary evil in a time of war. Japan didnt mind taking lives in pearl harbor, germany didnt mind taking lives from the lusitania ship. Granted this was a smaller scale, however if the bombs werent done when they were, there could have been more countless lives lossed. More then just japan.

[Kolar]

I don't think that is the general consensus by historians and scholars today. Yet we still teach it to our children. I was taught that when we studied history. Many account the operation to the overzealous politicians and military commanders of the time more interested in image and bolstering American military superiority over that of winning a war. Japan was on the brink of surrender, an invasion was unnecessary with or without atomic weapons and the fact that it was a strike on a civilian population makes it a war crime and morally indefensible.

Is it our fault and does it matter today? No, neither of us or anyone old enough to not have a their thumb in their mouth are alive today. American and Japan relations today are high as are with the rest of the West preceding the Bush era.


I think what you are trying to do here HTF is to prove your sense of nationalism correct by using an era of great strife, yet probably the era of strongest friendship and loyalty between Western nations. Is it worth it to prove your point by sullying the name of the dead, be it Canadian, European or American soldiers and civilians who died?

[HateTheFake]

Is that something you really want to be boasting about?

if we didnt do what had to be done, how many more lives and areas would be destroyed now? it was indeed a necessary evil

[Cops]

Is that something you really want to be boasting about?

Apparently in his mind what they did to Japan is in fact something to be boastful about.

[Kolar]

Plus we are the only country to have used a nuke against another country. Usa > france

Is that something you really want to be boasting about?

[Cops]

Here's some reasons why no one will ever say thank you.

America decimated Japan, you killed thousands of civilians in probably one of the worst possible ways. America joined the war near the end after thousands upon thousands of Canadians, British, and Russian soldiers, as well as many other soldiers from different countries had given up their lives. Not only that but you also took half the military spoils, such a huge percentage that you would have never gotten if you didn't join so late.

But thanks for showing up late and trying to take all the glory.

[RATTY...]

Fuck, this is so sad that I don't even want to come up with an insult.

Lynching in public should be legal.

[RednaZ]

The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki by the end of 1945, roughly half on the days of the bombings. Since then, thousands more have died from injuries or illness attributed to exposure to radiation released by the bombs.In both cities, the overwhelming majority of the dead were civilians.

A thank you is not forthcoming.

[HateTheFake]

On May 8, 1945, Germany surrendered. After the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan surrendered on September 2, 1945, and the Second World War came to an end. The war cost the lives of more than 330,000 American soldiers. Many more were permanently injured or maimed.

you can thank us later for ending the war. Kids need to brush up on history

We ended the war with fewer casalties then would have went on. Plus we are the only country to have used a nuke against another country. Usa > france

[Cops]

and america would be speaking ... British English if it wasn't for the French. Learn your history, good man.

We should give up, expecting him to know any sort of history is pointless. I don't think he understands that other countries have contributed to wars as well as progressing our society in such a way that has allowed us to be born in a democracy.

[DoTheFandango]

rofl ill first off say, that we (USA) bailed france in ww2. It doesnt matter how many nukes they have now or later, they would still be speaking german if it wasnt for us. Second off, who cares they are still french. Like they will ever engage in a war again.

and america would be speaking ... British English if it wasn't for the French. Learn your history, good man.