John McCain vs Barack Obama Mega-Politic-Thread of super fun awesomeness.

[Izor]

MCcain is a douchebag when it comes to foreign policy......

you clearly dont understand that a douchebag axed you from quicksand...birds of a feather flock together

[kthx]

Soul... Obama won't buy you chemo. sorry.



Sen. Barack Obama has a problem. And it lives in a hut.

His name is George Hussein Onyango Obama, and he is the 26-year-old half brother of Mr. Obama, the multimillionaire autobiographer who neglected to write that his paternal sibling lives on less than a dollar a month in the outer slums of Nairobi, Kenya.


"The fundamental belief that I am my brothers keeper and my sisters keeper" - Obama

[Fit of Rage]

So tell me, in Colorado, what has been so bad about your life in Colorado?

What policies of Obama do you support, which will make this country better?

Do you think taxing anyone who makes 250,000 dollars or more at a higher rate will make things better? When business owners, companies, and small business owners have less money because they are paying more in taxes, they will pass the cost along to the consumers, and if that fails, they will have to fire people. When people are fired, there are less people to buy the products in the first place. Raising on taxes on the people who provide the jobs for Americans just furthers to destroy the economy not to help mend it.

Do you think taxing oil companies will work? When you tax an oil company, you make them less likely to trade in your country, like what happened under Jimmy Carter (by doing what Obama plans on doing) oil companies decide hey.. lets sell our oil to companies that don't want to tax us so highly and make more money for doing so, So they sold the oil to other countries which made America.. have a shortage in gas wow.

The point is you don't understand simple economics, and you even seem to agree with me that the people at the DNC looked like the homeless people that your city was supposed to buy movie tickets for. That is because, those people are the dregs of society, the useless, the people who rely on people like me to pay for their welfare.

Trickle-down doesn't work because people are greedy. Especially people who already have a decent sum of money.

[Cops]

Does anyone really whine about gay marriage? Its just something for normal people to make fun of.

niiiice

[kthx]

Trickle-down doesn't work because people are greedy. Especially people who already have a decent sum of money.

No, it doesn't work because people who start a business and make money off of it, deserve to keep it, who the fuck is anyone to say that someone makes too much money? That is America and always has been America. Do you know why these people are successful.. because they work hard, but some people would rather not work hard and live off the people who do. Nobody wants to share the money they make with people because that is COMMUNISM, and America is not a communist nation. COMMUNISM fails because if everyone makes the same amount of money and shares from the national pot, then why would you even try to be better than anyone else? Competition, such as America's free market is what makes America the best country in the world. Competition is why we are more technologically advanced, why we have the highest standard of living in the world, why we aren't a poverty stricken third world country. It doesn't take much more than common sense to realize this, and realize the primary flaw in Obama's way of thinking.

[Izor]

What bothers me is that she's a middle class American who's going to vote against herself, vote however you want but you're a fucking moron if you're going to vote against someone who plans on helping you. It's also hilarious to call Mccain the lesser of the two evils, it shows no real understanding of the candidates or the issues at hand.

At least im not saying that roughly 50% of a whole country has no understanding of the issues at hand. Please tell me how it is possible to make your vote for McCain if you were going strictly off of media coverage. All you really ever see on the news is Obama, and the media's pathetic attempts at spinning everything in his favor. "Jesse Jackson makes crude remarks about Obama...but will it help him with his campaign?!" and other ridiculous bullshit that I dont want to hear about: "Obama goes bowling omgz McCain cant cuz hes 2 old LOL!!!!!!!11" Occasionally you get a McCain story in there, but more often than not I've been hearing the opposite spin from Obamas'. For example, in my experience, I have yet to see a story that goes something like "Obama picks 6 term old as fuck senator from delaware as VP, but will he really help promote hope and change?" however I have seen a couple of stories about McCain choosing a young female VP and how it undermines how he's playing the experience card.

Anyway that was a lot of me griping about the media that I really didnt intend, but my point was that you'd have a hard time being a "sheeple" and still voting for mccain. I would venture as far as to say that with the way that it is now "cool" to be voting for obama if you were to vote for mccain you would really be the informed one

haha way to ignore the whole bulk of my other post though

oh god, i see wark has sparked the 'debate' that is about to come: "well they have enough money to give away they dont need all those millions and millions I should get all that money because I work every day!"

[Cops]

America's free market is what makes America the best country in the world..

Wow, that's two quotes today that have been added to the 'Wark says stupid shit' list.

[Kolar]

For example, in my experience, I have yet to see a story that goes something like "Obama picks 6 term old as fuck senator from delaware as VP, but will he really help promote hope and change?"

Really? Fox News you are slipping.


"It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum." Out of many, one."

He's talking about the American family and the general concern for another human being not being given the same rights and respect as every other American citizen.

[Fit of Rage]

No, it doesn't work because people who start a business and make money off of it, deserve to keep it, who the fuck is anyone to say that someone makes too much money? That is America and always has been America. Do you know why these people are successful.. because they work hard, but some people would rather not work hard and live off the people who do. Nobody wants to share the money they make with people because that is COMMUNISM, and America is not a communist nation. COMMUNISM fails because if everyone makes the same amount of money and shares from the national pot, then why would you even try to be better than anyone else? Competition, such as America's free market is what makes America the best country in the world. Competition is why we are more technologically advanced, why we have the highest standard of living in the world, why we aren't a poverty stricken third world country. It doesn't take much more than common sense to realize this, and realize the primary flaw in Obama's way of thinking.

Who said anything about communism? We're talking about American small businesses, who WILL be getting tax breaks from Obama. You're telling me oil company execs work hard? Please, they only make a killing on oil because it's an in-demand quantity and is controlled by a select few companies that can almost adjust prices as they please. Why do you think so many people are eager to drive hybrids? Why do you think so many people in 1996 were ready to drive Chevy EV-1s? Fuck big business. I'm voting Obama.

[Izor]

Fuck big business.

I'm guessing that pretty much everything that you own is name brand, and from a big company.

[Kolar]

Competition doesn't really advance technology, mutually assured destruction can spur advancements but I would argue we've accomplished more in the last 20 years then we have in last the century. The sharing and proliferation of information and technology can advance our knowledge and better our world. Scientific discoveries and knowledge is not for the privy of one nation.

[kthx]

Really? Fox News you are slipping.


"It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum." Out of many, one."

He's talking about the American family and the general concern for another human being not being given the same rights and respect as every other American citizen.

So why doesn't he care about his Brother, from a merely literal sense, who makes less than 12 dollars a year? And what does Obama know about giving all Americans the same respect and rights, when he hired a corrupted builder to build the low income housing in the city he was trying to "save" as a community organizer. Who is now in jail, and is known as nothing more than a pathetic slum lord.

As for you fit of rage, if you had any clue what you were talking about you would know that what Obama is suggesting borders CLOSELY on communism, even if it isn't full blown. And many small business owners make around a quarter of a million a year, that isn't even that much money honestly. And yes they will be taxed more, and yes they will have to fire employees and raise costs of their products and services. And who really cares if Oil companies make 5000 trillion dollars a year, honestly? They made the technology to drill for the oil under the ground, after scouting out the area and finding that there was oil to drill there. After that they sucked up the oil, they get the oil refined into numerous products, and then they are in charge of shipping the gas and other products to the hundreds of thousands of gas stations in the country so that you can drive to work every day. What did you do to deserve any of the money that they spent billions upon billions of dollars to mine, refine, and transport? The US government gets 49 cents out of every gallon you put in your car, and they didn't do shit for it. Your state government gets 13-15 cents out of every gallon you put in your car. Maybe you should wonder why government makes 65 cents on every gallon of gas in America when they don't do anything for it. Of course, its much easier to just listen to an idiot speak and tell you how big business is ruining this country.

[kthx]

Competition doesn't really advance technology, mutually assured destruction can spur advancements but I would argue we've accomplished more in the last 20 years then we have in last the century. The sharing and proliferation of information and technology can advance our knowledge and better our world. Scientific discoveries and knowledge is not for the privy of one nation.

Yeah, lets send out how to build nuclear weapons to Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and go ahead and let North Korea have their nuclear weapons, and germ warfare factories. Great idea! Also, you are wrong, competition increases the will for people to do better in life. When Russia and America were competing to be the first country on the moon, the space program and space flight progressed at a rate MUCH faster than it had been before. Steel was invented because it would provide better protection, and stronger weapons so help defeat the enemy, and was later used in building buildings among other things.

[Kolar]

I'm sure I have long lost relatives all over the place. Ireland, Scotland, England and maybe even the rest of Europe, not counting the ones I know about on my Dad's side. Would I care to bring any of them home for dinner? Would you bring home a stranger you know nothing about, have no relevant experiences with besides the fact that you share some DNA? And who says he doesn't care, maybe he will contact that person I don't know. Obama didn't have such a good relationship with his father so I am guessing he wouldn't want to contact people of his family, just the same I have no strong attachments to my Father's family many of whom live abroad.


I never said that nuclear technology should be shared with anyone or that we should help in spreading it. Google "how to build a nuclear weapon". The tools and parts to construct such weapons is a different matter entirely. The USSR and the United States were looking to advance their technological superiority so one could, in the likely event at the time one attempted to destroy the other, the attacking party would not stand to live, or shortly thereafter their skin would be melting. This is mutually assured destruction, competing with the mind set of not doing so equals death. That is not competition that we have today in a free market scenario.

[kthx]

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