Girls/Friends Friends/Girls

[HateTheFake]

This is probably the most accurate stuff someone has ever said to me:

A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired.

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[Soup du Jour]

The Ladder Theory

IMO, this is the best theory explaining relationship stuff for men and women.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules like any social theory but I find it works in almost all cases.

[HateTheFake]

rofl

[sonlox]

As to the first point, that of money. Well most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living.

this is so true

[Bioture]

haha I've known about the ladder theory for a few years now. Most guys and gals that I share it with agree that it's true.

But as for the original post, I'd like to believe that there is an positive underlying reason why you're never going to get the job. I.E. she doesn't want to fuck up the friendship so she keeps you as a friend. At least, that's what I'd like to BELIEVE.

Personally, I've noticed that once you jump from the friendship ladder to the real ladder successfully (and on top), you irrevocably damage the friendship ladder to a degree that should you wish to jump back, you'd probably end up in the abyss. But the most dangerous thing I've noticed is starting any relationship on top of the real ladder. Although the short-term benefits (sex) might be great, the long-term reality (she's a selfish bitch) eventually hits you with the subtlety of a freight train.

So ideally, I believe in starting out at the friends ladder. I really do. For every time you fuck up and end up in the abyss, we should set our ladder standards HIGHER not LOWER. That way, instead of having a huge pool of girls that could possibly be on the man's ladder, we start having fewer and fewer until there could only be one person qualified enough on that ladder (hopefully she reciprocates) - then you marry that person. Call me a hopeless romantic, but somehow I believe God made us in pairs.

[Bioture]

Religiosity:
While most people, even people who believe in God, will have sex before they are married and thus fall under the rules of the ladder, some people are so religious they will not have sex until they are married. This is of course a silly and anachronistic practice, but it does occur. In this case, the Ladder should me modified as follows: change instances of 'would have sex with' to be 'would like to have sex with.' This works because while religious people have the same impulses, they choose to deny them as opposed to embracing them.

As a religious person, besides the "silly and anachronistic" part, I believe that this quote is entirely true.

Basically a religious woman (in my POV) agrees to placing you on both the friendship ladder and the real ladder for a set period of time so that you can make the transition from one to another. It eases the fear of falling into the abyss. If you are successful at making the transition before marriage, then this is supposed to make the sex that much better and more meaningful (citation needed.)

I absolutely believe that it's easier to remain friends with a gf you've never slept with. In practice, this has been 100% true for me. Interestingly, I no longer talk to any of the girls I've slept with - ex fiance included. But I'm still friends with all the girls I've dated but never got past 2nd base. They're still on my ladder, just at a much lower status than they were before.

[Da1andonly]

Bitches want cock just as much as men want pussy. Take it away from them and they go insane. Sooner or later, all bitches break :grin:

[Fit of Rage]

Wow, Dennis said something correct and not gay in the same sentence! :wub:

[WEKS]

Itt: Bawwwww

[milosh]

I agree with the ladder theory at a primal level, but I believe that those natural instincts can be overridden by properly maturing.

[Vykromond]

ladder theory is for self-pitying sacks

[genocidal]

ladder theory is for self-pitying sacks

This. Although I won't say some of the tenets don't hold true for some women. But that's a stupid cop-out, I could say the same for wark's posts.

[kthx]

I would say the same for some of your posts also, unfortunately they are generally so uninspired I can't remember any right now.

[genocidal]

To you, inspiration is synonymous with hatred, resentment, and repressed lack of self-confidence.

[royCE]

dude is just mad because she denied him...
if you guys knew anything about pussy, its most likely shes not attracted to the guy, thus making him her friend, end of story

and by that, i mean physically and sexually attracted, if u dont have that, ur a friend, period.

same goes with the guy who looks at the girl...you really wonna date someone u think is not up to your standards in looks?

gtfo