Great article about successful weed smokers

[Exalt]

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/the-10-most-successful-potheads-on-the-planet-cool-enough-to-admit-it/

Included in the list are Sir Richard Branson Rick Steves Michael Phelps Barack Obama Montel Williams etc... and gives a full article about each person.. its pretty entertaining actually, and especially for those that have or still do smoke

[TagMor]

interesting article.
I think weed can expand consciousness, and help with abstract thought, etc. However, it can also make you really lazy. These people are the exception, who either didnt smoke enough to be effected by its negative aspects, or were able to overcome them. For the majority of heavy users weed has a negative impact. Atleast in the strict economic/social sense.

[Galleleo]

interesting article.
For the majority of heavy users weed has a negative impact. Atleast in the strict economic/social sense.

I call bullshit

[TagMor]

I hit the reply button with the intention of actually defending my statement.. Then I realised you must be either: Really stoned; or just an idiot.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

For the majority of heavy users weed has a negative impact. Atleast in the strict economic/social sense.

Replace "weed" with pretty much anything, though, and the statement stays true. It's a blanket statement that doesn't end up saying much of anything.

[Noah]

I hit the reply button with the intention of actually defending my statement.. Then I realised you must be either: Really stoned; or just an idiot.

My dear Galleleo is right, and he is neither stoned (you should be sometime Galle ) or an idiot.

What you said was pretty much clueless bullshit, and no, I won't give you the privilege of explaining why. It's not my job to educate you, and in your case I have no interest in doing so.

[TagMor]

Replace "weed" with pretty much anything, though, and the statement stays true. It's a blanket statement that doesn't end up saying much of anything.

It does in the context of the article, which is trying to paint the average stoner as the next president or multi-millionare.

What you said was pretty much clueless bullshit, and no, I won't give you the privilege of explaining why. It's not my job to educate you, and in your case I have no interest in doing so.

Weed also has the tendency of making you think you are really smart, whilst really, you are just blabbering semi-coherent nonsense.. The majority of my posts on this board are testament to this.

To make it clear: I'm not saying smoking weed equals failure in life. Just that if abused, it can quickly reduce one's motivational and organisation capabilities. Aswell as trigger a whole lot of psychological conditions.
Not sure how you could possibly argue against this, but I am fascinated to hear you try.

[PaulOakenfold]

Weed is seen as socially wrong. If you are a social figure, you're going to be pinned for doing it. End of story.

[Noah]

Weed also has the tendency of making you think you are really smart, whilst really, you are just blabbering semi-coherent nonsense.. The majority of my posts on this board are testament to this.

To make it clear: I'm not saying smoking weed equals failure in life. Just that if abused, it can quickly reduce one's motivational and organisation capabilities. Aswell as trigger a whole lot of psychological conditions.
Not sure how you could possibly argue against this, but I am fascinated to hear you try.

Since you made a slightly more intellectual post than the last one I'll sum it up shortly for you. You're making it sound like the successful potsmokers are the exception, and that they were lucky to escape the "bad effects" or whatever. The thing is that with just a tiny bit of selfcontrol (less selfcontrol needed than for alcohol use) you won't suffer those bad effects. Like everything if you abuse something hard you will suffer bad effects, but there are few who lacks enough selfcontrol to smoke often enough to actually get to that point. There isn't really anything with cannabis itself to makes it hard for you to have that small amount of selfcontrol you need to avoid the negative effects. Also if you consider the amounts you have to consume to get there then the bad effects aren't that bad really.

It isn't hard to live a normal life with a job, friends and family while being a pothead.

[Nycle]

Weed is seen as socially wrong. If you are a social figure, you're going to be pinned for doing it. End of story.

Depends on where you live and cultural attitudes though... I've seen a couple of major (political) figures publicly saying that they've used or experimented with drugs when asked, and it has never sparked any kind of debate.

Hell, even my high school biology teacher told us of his elaborate experiments at the Berlin love parade and implicitly encouraged us to experiment with caution if we wanted to know what it feels like, and he never got into any trouble for it either.

Edit: Maybe it's funny to add that a classmate was allowed to demonstrate his home made weed apparatus (a soft drink bottle with a large tube or something) in that same class for his presentation on drugs.

[gran guerrero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zahZs8GVQ

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

It does in the context of the article, which is trying to paint the average stoner as the next president or multi-millionare.

I believe that's just the way you took it: I took it as "weed smokers aren't necessarily retarded--look at these guys!"

Just that if abused, it can quickly reduce one's motivational and organisation capabilities. Aswell as trigger a whole lot of psychological conditions. Not sure how you could possibly argue against this, but I am fascinated to hear you try.

I'm not arguing "against" you, I'm just saying that too much of ANYTHING is usually a bad thing. That's common sense, not sage advice.

[Jerome Scuggs]

as more and more of my monthly income is being derived from the black markets, the less and less i am wanting legalization. plus, it creates a nice ideological rift through which many people can easily witness the problem of the state

[TagMor]

I believe that's just the way you took it: I took it as "weed smokers aren't necessarily retarded--look at these guys!"

An unemployed porno addict, sitting in his parents’ basement, playing video games, eating Lucky Charms out of the box with one hand while he lazily scratches his balls with the other. A dread-lock having, patchouli oil smelling, tie-die wearing, Phish listening, hula-hoop twirling space cadet. A burger flipping, acne having, socially inept, friendless loser... Where these stereotypes originated remains a mystery to us. In reality, they couldn’t be further from the truth.

Just because some successful people smoked a little weed in college has no relevance to the average HEAVY smoker. Those stereotypes are a little extreme, but are still alot closer to reality than them being the President or a business tycoon.

I'm not arguing "against" you, I'm just saying that too much of ANYTHING is usually a bad thing. That's common sense, not sage advice.

I am saying the negative effects of heavy weed use are alot more apparent than alcohol abuse. This wasnt always the case, however modern commercial cannabis production has transformed weed into a "hard drug", and laced it with dangerous chemicals/hormones.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

I am saying the negative effects of heavy weed use are alot more apparent than alcohol abuse.

Seriously? Seriously?