Career, is there such a thing?

[PaulOakenfold]

I don't know 404, for me, work doesn't define who I am. I can do all of those things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the 40-45 hours a week when I make some money.

[Reaver]

Maybe I read it wrong but to you guys thinking she made 1/2 a million, I thought she was implying that some of the people she worked with made 1/2 a million, not her. I'd be a bit suprised if any software engineer was making 1/2 a million unless they were brilliant or practically owned the company.

Also, as far as motivation goes, I hate to use the cliche but it's dead on, to each his own.

[404 Not Found]

I am not too sure whether you are familiar with the front office environment in investment banking. Basically I work with people who make a lot money. Bonus of half million a year is very common. But higher the return, higher the risks. Half of the people come to become traders won't last half a year. It isn't just for everyone.

To be in such a environment, you have to be tough. I am both tough and aggressive, very suitable for such a role :greedy:

And most important of all, all my friends who have my skill set & experience and is working in the finance field are either earning at least 50% more than I do or without a job (because of the financial crisis), retrenched from jobs with salary twice more than what I am earning <_<

I unlike you TelCat work with not only my mind, but my hands in creating as well as fixing things, as I am, but not limited to being, a luthier, medical illustrator, side shop doing frame off restorations of classic cars (Porsches & VW's), personal trainer...and an owner of an Architectural manufacturing firm. I would never consider or want to have anything to do with the career you have. I prefer to be creative and work with my mind as well as hands. Pushing numbers for some rich asshole so they can make more money at my expense to me is a crap job.

I guess you need to be tough to take the verbal abuse of some rich dickwad throwing money at you. Take away your finance and banking work and can you do anything at all besides work in the finacial industry? You mention Engineering? Well what kind of Engineering? Real Engineering to me deals with building codes and making sure components of an architectural or mechanical nature hold up to the specified extremes necessary. Your engineering degree must not be related to what most think of when the word "Engineer" is mentioned...and if it is, why would you go from Engineering to Finance? That's like going from a lawyer to a bathroom attendant.

[Money]

i highly doubt shes talking a 1/2 million ins US dollars.

prolly some useless chinese money where 1 million = $10 US

[PaulOakenfold]

So you make 1/2 million bonus as a software developer?
I find that a bit hard to believe. In fact, i dare you to scan a paycheck.

And if so, sign me up. My pro's:
- I've got double your experiance, also in the financial district (bank).
- I'm a male.

She must be a Math Major as well as a CS Major maybe? Because where I work, the Math Majors make more than everyone else excluding middle management (which is around $250,000+) and the executives (no clue! ridiculous stock options though).

She might be talking about Yen.

[SEAL]

I do not work for a large corporation. I am a software developer in a finance company.

So why do I claim I have some skills?

First of all, finance love people who have a finance background but very good with maths, preferably have a degree in maths/physics or engineering. I have a degree in engineering and postgrad degree majored in finance.

Second of all, with my last job, I have been a consultant (a fancy term for a BA or a developer who works directly for the clients on company's behave), and I have worked on projects for a few banks. It looks good on my resume, although to tell you the truth, the business knowledge I have learned from those 2 years as a consultant is not as much as what I have learned in the first half year at my current job.

Third, I have 5+ years software development experience (some are part time).

Fourth, I am not too sure whether you are familiar with the front office environment in investment banking. Basically I work with people who make a lot money. Bonus of half million a year is very common. But higher the return, higher the risks. Half of the people come to become traders won't last half a year. It isn't just for everyone.

To be in such a environment, you have to be tough. I am both tough and aggressive, very suitable for such a role :greedy:

And most important of all, all my friends who have my skill set & experience and is working in the finance field are either earning at least 50% more than I do or without a job (because of the financial crisis), retrenched from jobs with salary twice more than what I am earning <_<

So you make 1/2 million bonus as a software developer?
I find that a bit hard to believe. In fact, i dare you to scan a paycheck.

And if so, sign me up. My pro's:
- I've got double your experiance, also in the financial district (bank).
- I'm a male.

[Heroin Bob]

jscuggs ftw on that post.

I am bored, some one link some porn or telcat show boobs

[PaulOakenfold]

LOL those who dont have many things, bitch about those who do.


wtf does New Zealand have to offer the rest of the world? besides more sheep fuckers and LOTR sequels?

Comedy, beautiful land, and musicians.

[genocidal]

TagMor is a goddamn idiot, as he has shown us once again.

Just because America is good at making money doesn't mean that everyone thinks their job is ultra-important. Of course when you think at a macro level everyone's job is going to seem silly. A job is a means to an end, not an end, and pretty much everybody over the mental age of 16 knows and understands that.

I just like to send myself into TagMor land and think about what would happen if he actually were right about something. In this case, everyone would quit their jobs, buy their local supermarket out of Doritos and Mountain Dew, go home and spend every waking hour philosophizing on the stupidity of people who don't sit around reading conspiracy theories and being a worthless pile of shit. Except everyone would be worthless so I guess they'd just sit around and argue about who was the last person to be a cog in the government machine. Oh yeah and everyone's dick is automatically scaled to TagMor's enflamed clitoris penile appearance.

[PaulOakenfold]

NOPE, I MOVED to TEXAS from michigan. and ive always had my views.

the fact is, texas is better than all you. get over it

WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU.

always have always will

Nice attempt.

[Money]

You divide the population of the world into two groups:

1. the people in general, who are materialistic, greedy, and selfish to the point of ignoring their own children...

2. and you, who sit above and beyond these people - able to perceive all their wrongs, and able to give us exactly what we need.

you are one conceited motherfucker.

LOL those who dont have many things, bitch about those who do.


wtf does New Zealand have to offer the rest of the world? besides more sheep fuckers and LOTR sequels?

[Money]

I think a lot of your political views will change as your kids grow older and/or you move out of Texas.

NOPE, I MOVED to TEXAS from michigan. and ive always had my views.

the fact is, texas is better than all you. get over it

WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU.

always have always will

[Jerome Scuggs]

i gotta rep for my homeboy frederic bastiat on this one. two centuries old and still kickin ass!

Present-day writers — especially those of the socialist school of thought — base their various theories upon one common hypothesis: They divide mankind into two parts. People in general — with the exception of the writer himself — form the first group. The writer, all alone, forms the second and most important group.

In fact, these writers on public affairs begin by supposing that people have within themselves no means of discernment; no motivation to action. The writers assume that people are inert matter, passive particles, motionless atoms, at best a kind of vegetation indifferent to its own manner of existence. They assume that people are susceptible to being shaped — by the will and hand of another person — into an infinite variety of forms, more or less symmetrical, artistic, and perfected. Moreover, not one of these writers on governmental affairs hesitates to imagine that he himself — under the title of organizer, discoverer, legislator, or founder — is this will and hand, this universal motivating force, this creative power whose sublime mission is to mold these scattered materials — persons — into a society.

These socialist writers look upon people in the same manner that the gardener views his trees. Just as the gardener capriciously shapes the trees into pyramids, parasols, cubes, vases, fans, and other forms, just so does the socialist writer whimsically shape human beings into groups, series, centers, sub-centers, honeycombs, labor-corps, and other variations. And just as the gardener needs axes, pruning hooks, saws, and shears to shape his trees, just so does the socialist writer need the force that he can find only in law to shape human beings. For this purpose, he devises tariff laws, tax laws, relief laws, and school laws.

[PaulOakenfold]

I'm with you on this J. Scuggs.

The world is not black and white.

[Squeezer]

You divide the population of the world into two groups:

1. the people in general, who are materialistic, greedy, and selfish to the point of ignoring their own children...

2. and you, who sit above and beyond these people - able to perceive all their wrongs, and able to give us exactly what we need.

you are one conceited motherfucker.

That's only because you're one of Them. In Tag's world, everyone that isn't him is some evil piece of shit hellbent on pushing their despair on others. We're all terrible human beings, except for Tagmor. He's dreamy :wub:

edit: +1 on quoting Tyler Durden. Because that's not cliche

edit: Tagmor....not scuggs