Career, is there such a thing?

[PaulOakenfold]

LOL those who dont have many things, bitch about those who do.


wtf does New Zealand have to offer the rest of the world? besides more sheep fuckers and LOTR sequels?

Comedy, beautiful land, and musicians.

[Heroin Bob]

jscuggs ftw on that post.

I am bored, some one link some porn or telcat show boobs

[SEAL]

I do not work for a large corporation. I am a software developer in a finance company.

So why do I claim I have some skills?

First of all, finance love people who have a finance background but very good with maths, preferably have a degree in maths/physics or engineering. I have a degree in engineering and postgrad degree majored in finance.

Second of all, with my last job, I have been a consultant (a fancy term for a BA or a developer who works directly for the clients on company's behave), and I have worked on projects for a few banks. It looks good on my resume, although to tell you the truth, the business knowledge I have learned from those 2 years as a consultant is not as much as what I have learned in the first half year at my current job.

Third, I have 5+ years software development experience (some are part time).

Fourth, I am not too sure whether you are familiar with the front office environment in investment banking. Basically I work with people who make a lot money. Bonus of half million a year is very common. But higher the return, higher the risks. Half of the people come to become traders won't last half a year. It isn't just for everyone.

To be in such a environment, you have to be tough. I am both tough and aggressive, very suitable for such a role :greedy:

And most important of all, all my friends who have my skill set & experience and is working in the finance field are either earning at least 50% more than I do or without a job (because of the financial crisis), retrenched from jobs with salary twice more than what I am earning <_<

So you make 1/2 million bonus as a software developer?
I find that a bit hard to believe. In fact, i dare you to scan a paycheck.

And if so, sign me up. My pro's:
- I've got double your experiance, also in the financial district (bank).
- I'm a male.

[PaulOakenfold]

So you make 1/2 million bonus as a software developer?
I find that a bit hard to believe. In fact, i dare you to scan a paycheck.

And if so, sign me up. My pro's:
- I've got double your experiance, also in the financial district (bank).
- I'm a male.

She must be a Math Major as well as a CS Major maybe? Because where I work, the Math Majors make more than everyone else excluding middle management (which is around $250,000+) and the executives (no clue! ridiculous stock options though).

She might be talking about Yen.

[Money]

i highly doubt shes talking a 1/2 million ins US dollars.

prolly some useless chinese money where 1 million = $10 US

[404 Not Found]

I am not too sure whether you are familiar with the front office environment in investment banking. Basically I work with people who make a lot money. Bonus of half million a year is very common. But higher the return, higher the risks. Half of the people come to become traders won't last half a year. It isn't just for everyone.

To be in such a environment, you have to be tough. I am both tough and aggressive, very suitable for such a role :greedy:

And most important of all, all my friends who have my skill set & experience and is working in the finance field are either earning at least 50% more than I do or without a job (because of the financial crisis), retrenched from jobs with salary twice more than what I am earning <_<

I unlike you TelCat work with not only my mind, but my hands in creating as well as fixing things, as I am, but not limited to being, a luthier, medical illustrator, side shop doing frame off restorations of classic cars (Porsches & VW's), personal trainer...and an owner of an Architectural manufacturing firm. I would never consider or want to have anything to do with the career you have. I prefer to be creative and work with my mind as well as hands. Pushing numbers for some rich asshole so they can make more money at my expense to me is a crap job.

I guess you need to be tough to take the verbal abuse of some rich dickwad throwing money at you. Take away your finance and banking work and can you do anything at all besides work in the finacial industry? You mention Engineering? Well what kind of Engineering? Real Engineering to me deals with building codes and making sure components of an architectural or mechanical nature hold up to the specified extremes necessary. Your engineering degree must not be related to what most think of when the word "Engineer" is mentioned...and if it is, why would you go from Engineering to Finance? That's like going from a lawyer to a bathroom attendant.

[Reaver]

Maybe I read it wrong but to you guys thinking she made 1/2 a million, I thought she was implying that some of the people she worked with made 1/2 a million, not her. I'd be a bit suprised if any software engineer was making 1/2 a million unless they were brilliant or practically owned the company.

Also, as far as motivation goes, I hate to use the cliche but it's dead on, to each his own.

[PaulOakenfold]

I don't know 404, for me, work doesn't define who I am. I can do all of those things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the 40-45 hours a week when I make some money.

[Jerome Scuggs]

i'd even say alot of you actually have an influence over your work, not vice versa. i'm sure that's not always the case, but who here actually hates their job? or feels enslaved?

sit on your ass for a month. you'll feel useless. you'll want to work. sometimes people like working. sadly, many of them are too busy working to be intellectual.

[404 Not Found]

I don't know 404, for me, work doesn't define who I am. I can do all of those things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the 40-45 hours a week when I make some money.

I didn't realize she was a software engineer. And work does not define me, but I must say that most people can't even push a pencil...they need computers to do what once was done with your own mind and hands.


I work when I need to work....and I love not working for the man/big corp.'s

[Mr. 420]

They should. You have to get schooling, degrees, student loans, jobs etc. to become a successful investor (and I'm not talking about people that get real lucky home investing, which is a very small minority). I got my Finance Bachelors and then my MSF. I worked hard, and now I have a job, and I'm still paying off student loans.

Sure, I could become an investment banker, work on Wall Street, whatever, but making more and more money isn't what's important in life. I'll be a Financial Advisor (or Manager), for whatever corporation keeps me, for the rest of my life because it's what I like to do and it's stable.

Most people live in the world of "I work 40hrs a week for $/hr or $salary" what I was trying to convey is there are other options, especially when you have a system to do the work for you. You regain time since you're not doing the time = $. What it does is the system = $.

Everyone has the same 24 hours a day but not everyone makes the same amount of $ in that time. Careers top out, even the ones you go to 2-7 extra years for. Doctors, lawyers, mechanics etc. And I'm not talking about investing money either (For that they say you need $250,000 of which it will not hurt your finances). I'm talking about investing in a system that OVER TIME makes you your income and THAT type of business (The B type) has infinite possibilities as to how much you can make.
What would you do if a part-time passive residual income EQUAL or more than what you make in a year was at your feet? That's what a system based business can offer.

I'd also check out Paul Zane Pilzer (The Next Millionaires). This guy is a genius, and again don't take my word for it, read him yourself!

[PaulOakenfold]

And I'm not talking about investing money either (For that they say you need $250,000 of which it will not hurt your finances).

Holy crap is that wrong.

If the book you read said that, then it's not a book worth reading. A lot of my clients are Blue Collar workers, and they'd beg to differ. Sounds like the guy is just pulling stuff out of his ass.

Me, and everyone else that invests soundly, works the system.

[PaulOakenfold]

i'd even say alot of you actually have an influence over your work, not vice versa. i'm sure that's not always the case, but who here actually hates their job? or feels enslaved?

sit on your ass for a month. you'll feel useless. you'll want to work. sometimes people like working. sadly, many of them are too busy working to be intellectual.

If I keep the same career, then I'm not looking forward to retiring. I save my time for two week vacations for the most part, and by the second week, I'm really hating it.

Don't get me wrong, I love investing time in my house and property, but there's only so much you can do without THAT becoming a job in its own. Once my kids are in college or out the door doing their own thing, my job will probably be the only thing that can keep my occupied for 8 hours a day.

[Squeezer]

i'd even say alot of you actually have an influence over your work, not vice versa. i'm sure that's not always the case, but who here actually hates their job? or feels enslaved?

sit on your ass for a month. you'll feel useless. you'll want to work. sometimes people like working. sadly, many of them are too busy working to be intellectual.

this is true. I'm pretty sure most of the employed people on these forums (hint: not Tagmor or T0ne), probably have cushy service jobs that at least resemble the kind of things we're passionate about.

If only they would make spaceship fighter pilot a career

[Epinephrine]

I like not working more than working. I miss those days when I could play 6 hours of Subspace a day

Still I have too many things I want to do in life, and with that I need money. At least I kind of like my job and have a lot of freedom within that job.

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One thing I realize that is important in a career TelCat is to have real pride in what you do. It's a world of difference between doing an adequate job at work, doing a good job because you want someone to give you a promotion, or doing a good job because you take pride in what you do and try hard because YOU want to even if there is no clear gain from that extra effort. I have personally been through all 3 stages and can tell you that the first 2 kind of suck.

People who take pride in whatever it is that they do, no matter what career they have will be vastly more happy then those who do not. If you do not have pride in your occupation, then you should do something else if you ever want to be happy doing that job.

The other way of going about it is of course... to just work purely for the money and find other interests in life that are important, but even those people generally aren't that happy unless they make more than enough money for their myriad of interests.