Jesus knew Satan well

[disorder]

When Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say I am?" Peter responds "You are the Christ." But Jesus rebukes Peter, "Get away from me, Satan." Why?
Jesus' preferred answer to "Who am I?" is "You are the Son of Man." Peter seldom referred Jesus as "son of Man," and continued his Satanic referrals of Jesus as "the Christ, the annointed one."
As we understand it, "Jesus Christ," and "Jesus the Christ" are Pauline post Jesus' crucifixion referrals essentially invented (contrived) by Paul-Saul himself. Simply, "Christianity" didn't exist in Jesus' lifetime.




when you ask a christian why they are at a massive gathering they will reply 'jesus is here with us now i feel it'. could it be they're pointing out they're perceiving their schizophrenic receptor sites? lsd and schizophrenia activate the same receptor sites, and on lsd it feels like a presence is alerting that you are the one.


anyone got any thoughts on the 'sensing jesus is with us' thing, maybe having to do with satan?

[Xog]

Fuck this.

[disorder]

cog

[Xog]

cog

do u even know what cog is?

[disorder]

do u even know what cog is?

reaver told me. do you know what satan is?

[Exalt]

When Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say I am?" Peter responds "You are the Christ." But Jesus rebukes Peter, "Get away from me, Satan." Why?
Jesus' preferred answer to "Who am I?" is "You are the Son of Man." Peter seldom referred Jesus as "son of Man," and continued his Satanic referrals of Jesus as "the Christ, the annointed one."
As we understand it, "Jesus Christ," and "Jesus the Christ" are Pauline post Jesus' crucifixion referrals essentially invented (contrived) by Paul-Saul himself. Simply, "Christianity" didn't exist in Jesus' lifetime.




when you ask a christian why they are at a massive gathering they will reply 'jesus is here with us now i feel it'. could it be they're pointing out they're perceiving their schizophrenic receptor sites? lsd and schizophrenia activate the same receptor sites, and on lsd it feels like a presence is alerting that you are the one.


anyone got any thoughts on the 'sensing jesus is with us' thing, maybe having to do with satan?

you realize this is going to create a religious debate right? Plus, you have to understand what your talking about, and also add the entire quote to really get anywhere in these type of arguments. I'll set you straight real quick before this thread takes off, because I don't feel like seeing religious bickering at the moment.






Mark 8:27 And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?

28 And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.

29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.

30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.


Ok, so that is the correct quote of your first part. Jesus did not rebuke peter until later verses. The reason he said "do not tell anyone who I am" at the time, was because they didn't understand him under the messianic nature of it all... and people would not accept it. The Jewish notion of the "Messiah" was not the same as the Christian version. The first Christians in the world were Jewish converts. All the disciples were Jewish. They could not understand, and actually still don't understand the notion of a messiah that took the place of blood sacrifice for atonement of sins. Simply put, Jesus had not become the messiah that we know today yet. He had to die and be ressurected first.


Lets move on to your second part.

Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.

33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

See the difference in the actual quotes instead of the segmented broken ones you tried to piece together as an argument? I can take any paragraph and delete words at whim to change all meaning of the original context if I wanted too. And to clarify why Jesus said "get behind me Satan," it is because the "surely you shall not die!" statement from Peter. Jesus needed to die and be resurrected to be the messiah and 'save' everyone's soul. Otherwise, Christianity would have never taken place.

So finally, to answer what you said that 'Christianity' did not exist during Jesus' life time, you are completely and 100% correct. Christianity is a byproduct of Judaism. It is Judaism evolved in the notion that the messiah has come, which the Jews do not believe has happened yet. All it did was take Judaism and split it into two sections, one where they believed Jesus was the messiah, and one that didn't, hence Christianity and Judaism in today's society. All fundamentals besides that are the same. All of them. Every Christian notion has its findings in the Torah, or Old Testament in the Bible. It is the same book. Without Judaism, you have no Christianity. That is a whole other subject to get into, and quite frankly would be too long of a discussion to be worth posting.

[Galleleo]

Why is anyone even falling for his crap?

[Exalt]

Why is anyone even falling for his crap?

he just wants attention, I figured I would fix it real fast by pulling up facts, I don't really intend on discussing anything further

[Galleleo]

I didn't even read your post, I read his first line, said fuck it, scrolled to the bottom and saw you posting a shitload of stuff.

[Xog]

I didn't even read your post, I read his first line, said fuck it,

same

[disorder]

Jesus was rightly pointing out that denoting his role as the Son of Man as the Davidian king 'Christ' would be the cause of his death by the collective whim of Satan. He didn't say that it would be his cause of death because they didn't know him yet, as you correctly say.

What he was really getting at is that giving him the role of Christ was Satan's intent, that the egotistical display was his forthcoming purpose in the sword of morality, that he should die for that sin.

Jesus only intended the sense that the self is to give unanimously(aye, anonymously too), not to take pride in the presence of the given.

It was all about the sensation of personal locality as the ego's downfall, rather than uprising. That he should be deemed the intellect as will over love would be his doom.

[Exalt]

I didn't even read your post, I read his first line, said fuck it, scrolled to the bottom and saw you posting a shitload of stuff.

well then this thread can die like it is supposed to, and maybe disorder can get infraction points and finally be banned for taking up bandwidth with his zillions of posts based on nonsense

[Mathematik]

If you wanna go with the line of thought that Jesus was an entity in Heaven before coming to Earth in human form, and remember the story that Lucifer (Satan) was a Fallen Angel cast down from Heaven, then you can possibly reason that Jesus could have known Satan from prior experience, pre or post fall.

Not sure what this has to do with feeling Jesus within you and mistaking it for the devil, though.

[Money]

would god approve of that

[Xog]

broken pics ftw