Islamic mosque to be built near ground zero

[gran guerrero]

Islam actually recognizes Jesus as a prophet (just not the son of God)

they have their own version of end times that correlates with Christian end times

They are actually two very similar religions compared to Judaism, just some obvious differences at first glance. But you have to realize that all three religions are apart of the Abrahamic religions, so in essence Islam is the last of the first two (jews, then christians ofc)

so eventually its not hard to believe that all three religions will be locked into place and allow a sort of unified religion of all three and I believe that's where it will break off if you wanted my opinion on it.

[gran guerrero]

it's like 3 squabbling brothers until Father comes in and slaps us all on the hand then we get our shit together and work as one

[kthx]

And you

1. Are a terrorist.

2. Have the gayest music video ever.

3. You forum name should be "Crazy Ivan"

[gran guerrero]

trying to give me a new forum theme?

I thought you were going to do Highlander btw

[gran guerrero]

Should I start?

[kthx]

No way you can't be the forum highlander, I already declared myself the forum highlander and you have to kill me to gain my powers first.

[gran guerrero]

all I see is a socialist clown

[kthx]

Sigh, I have to do some contemplating on my day off. AFK for a few hours.

[Tigron-X]

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill -- not that I even recognize there is a mole hill. Not even a pimple.

Seriously, if no one ever said anything, the mosque would be built and no one, except for possibly local muslims, would pay any attention to it whatsoever. No one would care or think anything of it. It wouldn't mean a damn thing!

But, NO! Some retarded religious zealot had to go protest it because someone is building a place of worship that interferes with his religious beliefs.

What I'm going to do is go put a big red 'X' on my shoes, and when I go walking around in them I conquer all the land I step on.

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2 blocks away from ground zero on private property where you are allowed to purchase said land and do whatever you want with it is hardly placing a victory flag on top of an attack committed by a small group of muslims compared to the entire population of muslims that exist world wide.

You are blanket generalizing/stereotyping a terrorist attack, yet this is a victory for all muslims yes, even though your own muslim friends are against this. You just don't make any kind of sense what so ever.

How is placing a mosque 2 BLOCKS AWAY FROM GROUND ZERO an act of claiming victory over an attack?? It was an attack on the United States, so if anything shouldn't they place a mosque in Washington, D.C. the capital? Oh wait I think they already do.

Fuck bros, America lost a long ass time ago according to cres.

Gran, I am in agreement with you. The property itself is being used as, and has been used as a Mosque prior to 9/11. If they try to stop this from being built, then they should just rip up the entire constitution and let this country become a state of Anarchy.

There's trash in every race of people and to say everyone from a specific faith are terrorists as well as they are trying to overthrow this nation is ridiculous. There are extremists in all faiths and groups, be it political or religious.

They should have the rite to build on their property and do as they wish as long as it is in line with the building codes of the city.

It was not that long ago that there had been signs on public beaches in Miami...even in Cleveland along Lake Erie that said no jews or dogs, in Boston it was very similar but geared towards the Irish and Blacks.

Racism and the fear of ones Religion that differs from your own has been a problem in the States for over a century. It is not going to change and if it does, it will only be a matter of time until it is someone elses faith or color that causes the next round of bigotry and hatred.

Let them build and re-furbish their existing property! This debate is ridiculous.

[Exalt]

Haha! Using sarcasm in your own posts, but you don't seem to understand when I am being sarcastic. If we are talking about people with a low IQ, Exalt, you are a good example!
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More like, I use my sarcasm well, while you have no idea how. Your post looked moronic and even serious at times, while clearly mine wasn't. I guess I have a low IQ for battling your terrible sarcasm with a better version! Oh woe is me.

[Exalt]

And if you review our history. Weren't we the ones (Christians) that raided Africa and every non-Christian country in our crusades? Didn't we kill thousands of "infidels", burn down cities, build thousands of churches and forced the locals to become Christian?
While they were perfectly happy living their lives?

So basically history is just repeating itself. We did it a few hundred years ago, they are doing it now. We were using swords, they are using bombs.

This was Catholicism, the Pope, and Europe. This was not protestant America, nor was it "my" history. It was Europe and their blind following of retarded popes and kings from Europe.

America was formed on the basis of wanting to seperate ourselves from the retarded popes and kings of Europe. We did a fairly decent job of it too, might I add. While you all still had kings fucking up your country, we had presidents and a constitution that formed the basis for the entire free world.

As far as a mosque at ground zero, there are obvious reasons that you are all so retarded that you overlook them. Ground zero is a sensitive area, and building a mosque anywhere near there is a spit in the face of all who sacrificed their lives during 9/11. You are European, so you have no idea what it means to be a patriotic American, so you wouldn't understand anyway.

I am fine with mosques being built anywhere else, but anywhere near ground zero is just plain stupidity. That mosque will be lucky if it doesn't get blown up itself. That would be putting those muslims in danger of harassment at the very least, and life threatening danger at the worst. If you think of both sides of the coin, then everyone would agree it is stupid to place a mosque there.

If Buddhist terrorists flew a plane into the twin towers, then it would be retarded to place a Buddhist temple anywhere near ground zero as well. The same goes for Christians. If a bunch of radical Christians flew planes into the twin towers, then it would be moronic to place a church anywhere near there. The religion doesn't even matter at that point. It is what it stands for that counts, and you are all overlooking that.

For all your bullshit talks about "freedom of religion" and all that shit, you ruin your own politically correct agendas in the first place. It is politically INCORRECT to place a mosque near ground zero, whether it is a block away or right on top of it. It is a sensitive area to say the least, and a mosque there would stir up far too many negative feelings for it to be wise to place one there.

THINK before you speak next time. You are all so full of political freedom bullshit that you overlook the obvious facts. We don't live in utopia. We live in the real world. Learn to live in it.

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill -- not that I even recognize there is a mole hill. Not even a pimple.

Seriously, if no one ever said anything, the mosque would be built and no one, except for possibly local muslims, would pay any attention to it whatsoever. No one would care or think anything of it. It wouldn't mean a damn thing!

But, NO! Some retarded religious zealot had to go protest it because someone is building a place of worship that interferes with his religious beliefs.

What I'm going to do is go put a big red 'X' on my shoes, and when I go walking around in them I conquer all the land I step on.

Moron


I have this distinct feeling you all just like to bitch and moan and complain about things you don't understand simply so you can see yourself type. If you all actually thought about what the issues really were, you wouldn't even take the stances you do. You just all like to debate for the sake of debating. Logical thinking seems to go out the window for 90% of you half the time.

[Exalt]

correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the people around early judeo-christian times had women covered up and avoided the bacon as well??

This was Judaism. Christianity didn't preach this. The Old Testament doesn't = the New Testament.

If you even understand history, you would realize that Jews and Muslims come from the same family. Abraham had two sons. One was Isaac, who formed the Hebrew nation and Judaism. The other son was Ishmael, who became the father of the Arab nation, and thus Islam.

Their little hatred for each other started all the way back to their forefather. Both religions/races trace their heritage back to the same man.

[Tigron-X]

then they should just rip up the entire constitution and let this country become a state of Anarchy.

That would be a beautiful day.

[Exalt]

That would be a beautiful day.

You sir, are a moron.