Free Cres! (ForumBan)

[Reckful]

watch out, you might get banned for that post reckful.

Would need demonic or mm god to do that and i dont think it will happen if its being discussed reasonably. Knowing the line is the key to not getting mauled by mall cops.

[Reckful]

Honestlyx cres just played this wrong if he had left the entire quote intact and asked why he was banned and this person wasnt nothing would of happened to him.

[Turban]

apparently pressure was banned as well, and everyone else that used that fabled, banned word in the recent days regardless of their intent or context - with the exception of you, me and hulk.

[Reckful]

Being yelled at by hulk is not something to take lightly

[Reckful]

Also ive seen entire conversations in pub take place debating the policy around nigger nigga etc and noone be punished mind you this was in demonics presents if that says anything. There is a time and place for everything.

[Reckful]

I spoke to mm god about this on sunday an essentially i dont see this ban being removed however it did open some peoples eyes in upperstaff to evaluating forum rules and punishment protocols. I dont know who is doing it but expect it anywhere from now till 2020

[Turban]

2020 is going to be such a good year.

[Shaddowknight]

Turban, there was actually an announcment about the rules change. It's sticky'd in the Rules section, and there was an actual Global Announcement for itthat ran for nearly 6 months (It ended in early April, but I just edited it to extend it a moment ago)

Until time that it's decided for the rule to be removed or changed, I still intend to issue infractions for it.
I've started a discussion in the forum staff section, but don't expect any change to happen immediately on the issue.

[Turban]

*10. Racism, discrimination, and harassment is forbidden in any form.*

such a great, vague rule. 10/10

i completely missed the announcement and truth to be told those rules are pretty damn bad. who decided that the temporary ban should be 5 days instead of one day? seems a bit too extreme, especially when you consider the fact that you guys only recently started banning for new things that no one else had banned for in the past, e.g. quoting another player or saying "nigga" / "ngr", both of which are questionable and probably shouldn't even be considered as racism unless the context is obvious.

[Mighty]

free my boy cres lol

[Demonic]

Cres' words:

I was first banned for 5 days for saying the N word without even a warning. After my ban, i realize that another person had said the same word on the exact thread that I had been banned on and another guy had the word in his forum sig. I quoted the guy and wrote 'lol' only to find myself banned for 7 more days.

1. These forums have always been a self regulating place with 0 to little need for staff intervention. Recently however, faggots such as shaddowknight and azov, have managed to ruin the entire atmosphere of the forums by literally being mall cops and power tripping. Forums have always been regulated for Racism etc

2. Use fucking common sense and reasoning instead of taking a few outdated rules to heart here. Give warnings and move on. There is no need to ban people over minuscule things such as this. Go all out if someone is linking child porn or whatever but really? Don't disagree, common sense approach is always the best way to go.

3. Why are these pieces of shit (shaddowknight and azov) even forum moderators? We have way better options than a couple of newbie faggots who just joined the forums like a year ago. They do not understand how the forums work and shouldn't even be given ANY staff powers in general. They either lack common sense or are just trying to makeup for real life shortcomings by being mall cops. Given up listening to you now, post started well but rather then leaving it there you have to go into the old newbie blah blah stupid staff blah blah - Make your point and leave it if you actually want something doing.

Time and time again, these two putrid garbage faggots have power tripped and harassed this games community in the name of the rules. They blame the loose nature of the rules and use it as a reason to be mall cops. Get it through your incompetent heads you idiots. These rules are meant to be used within reason and common sense. Get these faggots off of staff ASAP.

Cres already messaged me about this, and as I pointed out to upper staff we do not ban for Quoting, and funnily enough I went along the lines of "he just came off a ban for racism, saw someone else do it so quoted it with LOL underneath, which to my mind was highlighting it.

Shaddow is correct, he didn't report the post which is unfortunate and would have made this easy, and also rather then quoting the whole sentence he just quoted the word so I get where the upper staff is coming from and to be honest I never go with this #free crap as it just puts me off reading it if I am honest. That said, if the ban is wrong it does need to be addressed so we will have a decision later on today either way. What I don't want to happen is a free for all on quoting just so you can say it, and lets be honest that exactly what some of you will do, so any decision must take that into account.

[beam]

this guy's ign is literally "ngr" im not surprised to see him in here crying bout ppl using dodgy racism tactics

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