Whats up faggots.

[kthx]

ironically it's because i have good genes. metabolism like auschwitz yo

this is why i'm ok with whoever wins the culture wars: i will thrive in a socialist utopia because i'm an empathetic dude, and i will thrive in some right-wing hellscape because my genes are top notch and i would definitely get a job exterminating the neckbeards and gingers

Pbbt, you both know it would be a stalemate with the amount of guns we both own.

[Jerome Scuggs]

Pbbt, you both know it would be a stalemate with the amount of guns we both own.

[Jerome Scuggs]

If the National Socialist Movement should fail to understand the fundamental importance of this essential principle [race], if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.

• Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter IV, “Personality and the Ideal of the People’s State,” Trans. Marco Roberto, MVR, 2015, p. 33, first published 1926

Something Something literally hitler, cool socialism card. My capitalism card is better, my own house, wife, two kids, cars, love for my country and way of life.

so this is a bit late but i was at the parents' house for christmas, and every year at some point i usually get bored and wander over to dad's library and flip through a random book. anyways this year i finally, actually picked up Mein Kampf and flipped through it. I now regret waiting this long to actually tackle the book because I found the very answer to this bullshit "Nazis are Socialist" argument.

From Part 2, Chapter 7:

It was imperative from the start to introduce rigid discipline into our meetings and establish the authority of the chairman absolutely. Our purpose was not to pour out a mixture of soft-soap bourgeois talk; what we had to say was meant to arouse the opponents at our meetings! How often did they not turn up in masses with a few individual agitators among them and, judging by the expression on all their faces, ready to finish us off there and then.
Yes, how often did they not turn up in huge numbers, those supporters of the Red Flag, all previously instructed to smash up everything once and for all and put an end to these meetings. More often than not everything hung on a mere thread, and only the chairman's ruthless determination and the rough handling by our ushers baffled our adversaries' intentions. And indeed they had every reason for being irritated.
The fact that we had chosen red as the colour for our posters sufficed to attract them to our meetings. The ordinary bourgeoisie were very shocked to see that, we had also chosen the symbolic red of Bolshevism and they regarded this as something ambiguously significant. The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists. The actual difference between Socialism and Marxism still remains a mystery to these people up to this day. The charge of Marxism was conclusively proved when it was discovered that at our meetings we deliberately substituted the words 'Fellow-countrymen and Women' for 'Ladies and Gentlemen' and addressed each other as 'Party Comrade'. We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims.
We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people.

...The same eternally alternating tactics were also to be observed in the Red Press. Soon they tried to silence us but discovered the uselessness of such an attempt. After that they swung round to the opposite tactics. Daily 'reference' was made to us solely for the purpose of absolutely ridiculing us in the eyes of the working-classes. After a time these gentlemen must have felt that no harm was being done to us, but that, on the contrary, we were reaping an advantage in that people were asking themselves why so much space was being devoted to a subject which was supposed to be so ludicrous. People became curious. Suddenly there was a change of tactics and for a time we were treated as veritable criminals against mankind. One article followed the other, in which our criminal intentions were explained and new proofs brought forward to support what was said. Scandalous tales, all of them fabricated from start to finish, were published in order to help to poison the public mind. But in a short time even these attacks also proved futile; and in fact they assisted materially because they attracted public attention to us.

tl;dr: if you think Nazis are socialist... congratulations. You were manipulated by Hitler into believing Nazi propaganda.

Basically, socialism/marxism were popular at the time, so Hitler deliberately did things like call himself a "National Socialist" and used the color red to sucker people into checking Nazi party meetings out. It would be like modern-day Nazis calling themselves "The National Freedom Party" and using red, white and blue color schemes to sucker conservatives into checking them out. (Oh, wait a minute...)

Hitler literally wrote that he was depending on idiots who had no idea what Marxism was, to be dumb enough to believe that the Nazi party was socialist. Congrats, you're the very type of person Hitler relied on to build his base.

[Jerome Scuggs]

It would be like modern-day Nazis calling themselves "The National Freedom Party" and using red, white and blue color schemes to sucker conservatives into checking them out. (Oh, wait a minute...)

i swear when i wrote this, i wasnt aware of this group from the 1940's: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

[kthx]

What? It literally proves that you got suckered into the same bullshit not me? Did too many drugs over the holidays homie.

[Funky Hobo]

This thread has been a thumping good read.

[kthx]

Thats because I am a fucking legend, anything I write is good.

[Leland]

trump

[Salubrious]

i forgot jobs grow on trees and that the reason all 140 million americans aren't all CEO's is because they are lazy

maybe jobs are... finite. do you think jobs grow on trees?



hand check, let's see who does more hard work to make sure our economy runs

edit: i just wanna point out that a year ago i weighed 135lbs and today i weighed in at 150. i'm getting JACKED, my arms look like popeye's arms. can't wait til the revolution when i get to beat the shit out of pasty CEO's who do nothing but cardio

andrew why are you hiding your beautiful name from the world?

[Jerome Scuggs]

What? It literally proves that you got suckered into the same bullshit not me? Did too many drugs over the holidays homie.

i genuinely want to hear your reasoning here

also why do half of you maga chuds think nazis are commies but then the other half think communism is a jewish plot

sal i will pay u 0.01eth to scrub ur post with bleach

[kthx]

I don't think anything is a Jewish plot rofl, that is fucking hilarious. I have a problem with Islam itself because it is inherently violent, and a religion of conquering.

[Leland]

durka durka

[Jerome Scuggs]

I don't think anything is a Jewish plot rofl, that is fucking hilarious. I have a problem with Islam itself because it is inherently violent, and a religion of conquering.

i can see how u think islam is a religion of conquering, look at how Violent Iran has pushed its borders right to the edge of all these american military bases in countries that we conquered

[tagmost]

you've changed Jerome

[Jerome Scuggs]

you've changed Jerome

hell yeah, i'm still trying to sort of sum up how and what and why my beliefs changed, but more than anything i'm proud when people tell me i've changed over the last decade, it's proof that ya boi isn't the kinda dude who retreats to echo chambers when confronted with something that challenges my assumptions about the world. i take new ideas and concepts and apply them and see how they work and adjust my personal beliefs accordingly.

for me a big part of it was realizing that although we equate "capitalism" with "free markets", this is far from the entire picture. i mean, when you look at historic Greece and Rome, both of these empires had massive markets, in fact you see markets almost everywhere throughout history, and it's only in the past 200 years that a particular, capitalist market form took shape after the industrial revolution.

once you realize that capitalism is only one type of market, you gain a flexibility in examining markets as well as a flexibility in what future markets should or might look like.