Aliens... your viewpoint?

[bloodzombie]

The universe is not infinite. It's expanding, but it's slowing down. nobody's figured out if the mass of the universe is enough to make it so that the expansion will come to an end, and then it'll start collapsing back in on itself, eventually causing the reverse of the big bang, or if it'll reach a point where it'll just reach a steady velocity and expand forever.

it seems like the mass is way too low to cause it to collapse in on itself. The mass of all the stars and planets and stuff is way too low, but then there's stuff called "dark matter" which I don't really understand, but it's out there, and it's super dense, but still most likely not enough. I guess some people think it's possible that there's another kind of matter out there that we haven't discovered yet though.


Anyway, that wasn't really the topic. But if I was forced to bet my wife on it, I'd say there's probably aliens.

[RabbitRapist]

will the aliens want to play tw ? should we force them to donate to pay for a new server ?

-RR

[RiP]

Originally posted by Da1andonly
The universe has an end, it hasn't just reached that point yet.

Thats just a theory.. The universe might not even have a starting point for all we know..

Originally posted by bloodzombie
The universe is not infinite. It's expanding, but it's slowing down. nobody's figured out if the mass of the universe is enough to make it so that the expansion will come to an end, and then it'll start collapsing back in on itself, eventually causing the reverse of the big bang, or if it'll reach a point where it'll just reach a steady velocity and expand forever.

it seems like the mass is way too low to cause it to collapse in on itself. The mass of all the stars and planets and stuff is way too low, but then there's stuff called "dark matter" which I don't really understand, but it's out there, and it's super dense, but still most likely not enough. I guess some people think it's possible that there's another kind of matter out there that we haven't discovered yet though.

Just theories..

[Evasive]

Humans > Aliens

[bloodzombie]

It's not really just theories though. do you know about how doppler works? a car sounds high pitched as it approaches you then after it passes the sound gets deeper. the wavelengths trailing behind it are longer than the ones when it's coming at you.

same thing for light, they can measure the wavelengths of the lights coming from different stars and determine that nearly all of them are moving away from us and how fast they're going.

[Spiderex]

get over it, civilized life forms dont exist. I admit there might be some primitive shit out there, but our universe isnt that big. It just seems big because it loops, sorta like a gigantic donut. So if there was a telescope powerful enough to see where the universe ends, we would see ourselves, because as the light travels in our universe, it slowly bends, making a circle. What is in the center of this donut, what causes light to bend is unknown, but i would guess it's an ultra-strong ultra-big ultra-compressed black hole.

[bloodzombie]

In "A Brief History of Time" there's a good explanation of why light appears to bend but i'm not smart enough and my memory's not good enough to repeat it for you

[Material Girl]

This guy I know, who incidentally ended up moving to the Florida Keys, has this funny theory about how humans are evolving into "aliens".

I won't recall the details, but it does kind of make sense if you can believe that travelling through time is possible.

[Spiderex]

well depends if whether the time travel is in the past or in the future. It's only possible to travel to the future, and the phrase "time is relative" explains how.

[pv=nrt]

I could care less about aliens. The important issue is, wtf do i wear tomorrow

[Zloy]

I once met a woman who seriously talked about a fleet of alien spaceships hanging around Earth with the leader Ashtar who is given the task of protecting it.

So basically we are protected by this guy:


Dont drop the soap =\

[Noah]

I so believe. The universe is so huge that we can't rule out that there are life elsewhere. I'm sure we got life on plantes so far away that we can never even discover it. Alien life may be everything from small microorgasnisms to highly civilized aliens. How can you lock out that possibility when space is so huge? I don't got the number of it, but of all space mankind has ever maniged to spectate with our strongest telescopes may just be a tiny, tiny part of the universe.

But about UFO's within the atmosphere of the earth. Man has always believed in something unproven and mystique. Like when we believed in witches, we "saw" witches all over the place. We were even so sure about it that we burned them. The same phenomenon may be here today. Because in general there is such a huge interest for UFO's, and ppl wants to believe it so bad that some of them can actually "see" them in a point in their life. When most likely it has just been their own imagination creating it.

Anyways, none can really say anything too specific about this topic. All we can do is look at the situations, and make our own guess. Any1 who posts here and are 100% sure they are right is retarded. We can't back up what we say anyway, except some basic facts about space, but then again we can twists those facts to fit our own theories.

Originally posted by Da1andonly
One thing I've always wondered about: Some damn scientists and professors and shit says that there can't be any life on Pluto (the planet), because it's about -200 degrees celsius there. But, how the fuck do they know that there ain't some retarded alien that can only live there, and would die of heat here on Earth? /:

They probably use evolution on earth as a template to check evolution on other planets, which locks out such posibilities. We might even know how to recognize life on other plantes even if we got it right in front of us. So yeah, how the fuck can they know?

[RiP]

Originally posted by bloodzombie
It's not really just theories though. do you know about how doppler works? a car sounds high pitched as it approaches you then after it passes the sound gets deeper. the wavelengths trailing behind it are longer than the ones when it's coming at you.

same thing for light, they can measure the wavelengths of the lights coming from different stars and determine that nearly all of them are moving away from us and how fast they're going.

well big bang for example is just a theory.. It's not a bad theory tho =p
If ure interested in things like this you should read the book The mind of god by Paul Davies, very cool book.

[Black Alpha]

Originally posted by Da1andonly
One thing I've always wondered about: Some damn scientists and professors and shit says that there can't be any life on Pluto (the planet), because it's about -200 degrees celsius there. But, how the fuck do they know that there ain't some retarded alien that can only live there, and would die of heat here on Earth? /:

I agree. They say that life can only survive on planets like Earth, but surely only earth-life can survive on planets like Earth. I think there is the possibility for life on other planets not like earth, and this life would be suited to the planet it surivies on, just like we are.

But then again, I'm not some kind of scientist so I really don't know or care. If aliens exist, they're hardly gonna do anything about us or even try to contact us, so I don't care.

As Calvin said: "I think the surest sign of life outside this planet is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes, great comic strip).

[Epinephrine]

Originally posted by poop juice
if the universe really is infinite then probability dictates that there is a planet just like ours... so unless they find an end to the universe i believe there are other life forms out there.

Really great article on that in the May issue of Scientific American.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?col...A5809EC5880000

-Epi